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Summary

A new WalletHub poll reveals that 74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation, which remains a major concern for most households.

Trump’s plan includes significant tariffs—up to 60% on Chinese goods and 20% on other imports—to protect American jobs and address issues like fentanyl production and border security.

Experts warn these tariffs could increase consumer prices, with middle-income families potentially losing $2,500 annually.

Analysts caution Trump’s plans may face political hurdles in Congress despite his economic-focused campaign promises.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

poll reveals that 74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation,

Where the fuck were those people in November??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if a follow up question is in order. Like do they also expect to make even more money than prices will go up.

That's the only vaguely plausible answer I can think of. Say hypothetically they think prices will go up 20%, but they somehow think they will be getting 40% more so it's fine and the price increase only serves to further dissuade immigrants or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If they actually think the retail price of stuff basically doubling won't cause people to buy a lot less, they're nuts.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Naval gazing, believing what they were told?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There was also an epic campaign of Voter suppression from repubs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Yup, there definitely was. You could see it in the oh so unbiased BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE coverage from supposed left wing MSM, hint: there is no left MSM as there is no left in the States, it is either right of centre or full blown right wing anger politics with empty non answers.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 19 hours ago

Too bad the poll that matters already happened.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago

It won't. His Congressional majority is completely servile, and none of them care what the American people think. Their only focus is on looting and sabotage.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps they should have thought about that before voting for a lunatic.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You don't understand though. They really had to stick it to minorities and women, their every day be damned.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

It's almost like they think if those people have less happiness then they will have more. It's the same nonsense that underlies trickle down economics, a childlike belief that things won't be held onto by the ruling class with a vice-like grip.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We can all agree that polling is completely meaningless now yeah? It obviously has zero correlation with reality.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago

It was an election season where the race was polling around 50/50 pretty much throughout. Even when one candidate had a lead, with margins of error, no they didn't. A ~50% probability of losing is huge, even if many polls did show her slightly ahead. Consider a 20-sided die. 9 sides are red, 11 are blue. You wouldn't be surprised if you rolled red.

News media has no idea how to talk about polls because they don't want to talk about probability, they want to talk about which number is bigger as if it's a scoreboard. I didn't want him to win, but the polls weren't wrong.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago

Why? The polls showed Trump winning and he won, if anything they got more accurate.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think he's planning on worrying about polls ever again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't he at least have concepts of a plan for that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Not one you’d like…

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago

American Voters soon to get bad news that Trump does not give a fuck about them.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago

The only poll that mattered was on November 5, 2024.

[–] [email protected] 232 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Are we going to pretend he gives a shit? He doesn't. He got what he wanted, and he can't be elected again (barring him fucking our systems so severely that he manages to force a third term on us). He's going to wreck the justice system to avoid any consequences for his actions after his term, and he could very well kick the bucket while he's in office anyway (dude's got KFC gravy for blood).

He doesn't care. He no longer has to. He can play his country-destroying games with impunity. He has no reason to give a single fuck what the American people want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

and he can't be elected again (barring him fucking our systems so severely that he manages to force a third term on us).

That's easy, create a national crisis (massive inflation + riots) and have SCOTUS suspend the 22nd amendment

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Let him do this tariff thing. Maybe people will finally learn how "good" he and his party is with money when the US economy is completely ruined.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans have been tanking the economy my entire life. Their voters do not learn

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

Looking at what Trump is planning, you have seen nothing yet.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I understand the appeal of "teaching them a lesson", purely for spiteful reasons. But there are problems with that approach:

  • You can teach a child never to put his hand on the burner by putting his hand on the burner. He'll learn alright, but he'll also have a nasty burn. Similarly, you don't want people to learn the dangers of populism and extreme right by letting the extreme-right populist do stupid shit and wreck their lives.

  • We who didn't vote for the dangerous populist live in the same country as those who did: even if we wanted to let the dangerous populist hurt them to teach them a lesson, he'll hurt us too in the process.

  • History always repeat itself: even if everybody learns a hard lesson after Trump is done wrecking the economy - or worse - our children, or our children's children will invariably elect another Trump some day. So we might as well do our best to limit the damage each time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

It is not spiteful. I'm looking at this from the outside (as far as anyone can be with a world-dominating economy like the US), and I've given up any hope that Americans as such would learn without really, really painful lessons that manage to pass even through the thick skulls of the MAGA-heads. I don't wish anyone to suffer, but at the moment I cannot see any way for this lesson to set in without it.

That innocent people are hurt is horrible. But as only a smaller number of citizens have voted for the smart alternative, those who didn't vote and those who voted for Trump together are the majority. It could have been prevented if enough people had gotten their asses out of their houses - but that did not happen. And the death wish for the US was strong - Hitler only had about 33% of the votes and had to resort to political tricks to get where Trump was carried to by a majority of the voters. Think about that.

And yes, history repeats itself. You were extremely lucky to skip a few cycles - in comparison to e.g. Europe - but the signs were there for a long time, and way to few people cared. Maybe we all get lucky and it "just" turns into a 1929+ depression, focused primarily on the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

Your second point only applies to people who voted against him. If you didn't vote you voted for him.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

He has absolutely no reason to care now

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's almost like maybe we shouldn't have elected the guy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Seriously…. If 74% think his economic plan is bad, and yet a majority said that ‘the economy’ was the biggest reason for who they chose…. How?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

By economy they just mean the price of things that they regularly buy or the cost of a meal at the Red Lobster. They don't want their taxes to increase and by taxes they just mean income tax.

The best way I can put it is that these aren't serious people. They have very little understanding of how the systems that keep them alive actually work. Look at taxes and the messaging from conservative's "they are stealing your money." That's super easy for someone to understand. Much harder to understand that taxes pay for public services, roads, and clean water.

I've got in-laws that stuck their aging parents in public subsidized retirement housing. These guys also vote republican. Lucky for them they live in a blue state with decent retirement care otherwise there is no way they could afford that level of care. We are talking thousands a week for over a decade. Do they have any understanding of how that works? No, not at all they just want to complain about taxes being high.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

They just said "the economy" because they don't want to admit it's racism

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 day ago (4 children)

74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation

How about not voting the guy in then?

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I was told the election was about the economy.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

Has he ever given a flying fuck. He's a complete moron.

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