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πŸ–• Fuck PayPal

And fuck Linus Tech Tips for intentionally keeping quiet about this after they found out.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 44 minutes ago

Just open their privacy policy and done. They sell your browsing info, and you could stop it there

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Wait, when did Paypal buy Honey? 😳

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago

2020 for $4 billion.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I'm so proud I never consumed these guys shit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

I never trust browser extensions outside of a select few. However, I have used Paypal quite a bit. I would think many of us have.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Was it all that surprising to you though?

By the time honey hit the scene we had been ten years into "sketchy Browser extension that monitors your browsing habits and injects ads"

I guess getting flogged by your favorite influencer ads a veneer of legitimacy for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago (1 children)

You guys think Rakuten does the same? I have got so much money from them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 seconds ago

Rakuten is up front about it. They force their affiliate links, then pay you part of their cut.

Honey forces their affiliate links in exchange for maybe finding you a discount code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

If something advertises on youtube it’s a scam. Simple to remember really.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't mind things that are an actual thing to buy. I want to research it first--you can get a better electric razor than Manscaped for not much more--but at least it's clear how they make their money. Honey was obviously getting money from someone other than their users, and that's an immediate red flag.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. PayPal bought a coupon browser extension for how much? If the only thing they do is save YOU money, how come they can afford a sponsored segment in a mr beast video?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

That’s why I did not buy an eco flow or jackary. Too many influencers was a turn off. I went with BLUETTI.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly I thought all of this was common knowledge at this point, back when I used Honey (many years ago) I saw its affiliate code in the address bar and thought "huh, that's how they make money"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

I remember researching it a while ago when I was curious how they made money. If anything else, this just illustrated glee little research and care people have with their online information.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Ltt didn't hide shit, they posted it on a public forum

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't hide it, but a huge portion of their audience doesn't read the forums. A 10 minute video of Linus ranting about them would have opened this scandal to a wider audience years ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Linus usually likes to rant about it on the WAN show then they usually make a clip for YouTube, but weird he didn’t do that for honey, maybe he didn’t know how far the scam went.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 29 minutes ago

As creator that makes some of their profits from affiliate links, I don't see how that could be the case for him.

Seems more likely they had a reason to avoid beef with PayPal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Some very vocal people on Lemmy just love hating on LTT. I don't think this topic was worth them making a main channel video on, I think their forum post was good and I believe they even mentioned this functionality of Honey a few times on the WAN show. It wasn't a secret, and anyone who cared to do in-depth research on a potential sponsor could have found out.

[–] Cethin 20 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, that not nothing but it isn't far off. They have a massive platform. It deserved at least a video telling people about it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Linus Tech Tips really is scum. Yet more proof of that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Same person that said ad blocking was the same as piracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Have you ever heard his full stance on the matter? Because he clearly stated that this is not a judgment against using it. Heck, he's been open about having sailed the high seas himself and still doing so for media he physically owns.

It's just that gaining access to media while circumventing the payment (ads in this case) is basically piracy. Which is fair.

Signed, A uBlock User

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

It was a matter of time until the public found out about this. They couldn't think in the long term, by not accepting a bit of backlash, exposing the scam they unknowingly participated in they only opened themselves up for more later.

They are not only evil, they are stupid too, which is worse.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

Literally just watched that. I agree with his consideration that that's fraud.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I have been using PayPal increasingly for online payments. Not sure why. I have heard old stories about PayPal but Honey seems really bad. Its basically a given that any fintech company are going to be dodgy scammers but PayPal seemed almost grown up and respectable. Guess not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Maybe use privacy.com instead (they also have an app), they can generate virtual credit cards and you can set limit is (one time payment, or monthly $10 only, etc). It’s great if you need to cancel something or if they try to charge you extra. Saved me $150 when boost tried to charge me 1 year after I bought a phone from them!

It’s also great for predatory services like GYM membership that you can’t cancel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I use Klarna for basically everything I buy. I should probably reevaluate that. But I've had no issues so far. It notifies me when my payments are due. Helps me collect the sum of what I owe each month, each week. Helps me group payments to pay similar/connected things simultaneously, categorize purchases, etc, etc.

I really hope there's nothing dodgy going on there. But at least I'm not giving them interest on anything I buy. Always make sure I'm paying my stuff on time, and no postponed payments.

I'm guessing their business model is to exploit people who have issues paying on time and to collect interest and late fees, as well as receive convenience fees from stores implementing Klarna as a payment option.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 14 hours ago

I thought it was just collecting and selling user data but while I'd bet it's still happening - wow, this is way craftier.

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