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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I am now imagining that the trial starts... The jury walks in... Each and every one in that same sweater...

I bet the entire court will start sweating bullets 😂

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I am legitimately shocked they're gonna let him go to court. The risk of jury nullification is too high, and people are ready to give him romantic power. If he ended up dead in his cell from a toilet paper noose, that would be a warning to the plebes to get back in line.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What? You're shocked they gave him due process? What was the other option?

Oh I see, are you saying they should have killed him in jail or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

that would be a warning to the plebes to ~~get back in line.~~ bloody their guillotines.

FTFY. He won't get so much as a hangnail awaiting trial.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

There is no way in hell it gets nullified

[–] [email protected] 57 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

“They are literally treating him like he is some sort of political fodder, like some sort of spectacle,” Agnifilo said. “He was on display for everyone to see in the biggest stage perp walk I’ve ever seen in my career, it was absolutely unnecessary. He’s been cooperative with law enforcement... There was no reason for the NYPD and everybody to have these big assault rifles.”

“It was perfectly choreographed, and what was the New York City Mayor doing at this press conference, your honor? That just made it utterly political,” she continued.

His lawyer seems to not be afraid to pull any punches, I like her.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

She's far from unknown. She was high up in NYC for a while second to the ag. You can find videos of her on the midas touch network on YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Capitalism working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Intended is the next part where they roll out a premium line called LM

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Then the scam cryptocurrency hits, what am I saying? that's probably already happened.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, this is not on the stores selling that sweater, it's on the people buying it...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

They def-def shoulda swiped 'em.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Typical capitalist tactic cashing in

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We just need to convince these companies that murdering a horrible CEO is the best way to advertise!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Bye bye AI CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

I think people are overestimating how much stock any chain has for a specific item at any given moment. It's really not that impressive that specific color of a specific sweater can sell out quickly because of a meme. This is just clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is a disaster for the CEOs. Homeboy is going to get ended if the jury finds him not guilty.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Find him not guilty, the world celebrates the jury that spared Luigi and he goes onto become a hero.

Find him guilty, the world shames the judge that killed Luigi and he goes onto become a martyr.

There's no winning for the corporate elite here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

unfortunately there always is, and it's almost always the same. wait for it to die down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Time, bread, and circuses. But, we may soon run low on bread.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

I really can't see a scenario where the jury don't find him guilty. They really don't have a choice, they have to uphold the law as it is written. It is not within the remit of a trial to make new law.

No matter the ethical considerations he did kill someone. The law is very clear that murder is not acceptable even if you personally think it's justifiable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They really don't have a choice, they have to uphold the law as it is written.

They do, indeed. However, the "written law" includes the sixth amendment to the constitution, guaranteeing the accused the right to a jury. The flip side of that guarantee is that the juror is constitutionally empowered to reach a decision.

Constitutional powers supersede legislated law. The juror is not beholden to legislated law. Indeed, if they feel that strictly applying a lower law results in an injustice, they have a constitutionally-imposed duty to reject the short-sighted legislated law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Right so what part of that would allow them to justify murder?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

That question is nonsensical: 1. The jury never has to justify anything; 2. "Murder" is a legislated concept. The jury is not beholden to the legislature, and is constitutionally empowered to reject the laws they create.

Where the jury feels that enforcing the legislated law would be an injustice, they are free to rule "not guilty", even if they believe the accused's actions violate that law.

To more directly answer your question, though: If the jury felt that the healthcare extortion industry was completely out of control and a clear and present danger to society in general, they could determine that the legislated prohibition against killing did not contemplate this particular killing. They could determine that the accused does not deserve to be convicted just because the legislature was shortsighted in the way they wrote the law.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You don't know what Jury Nullification is do you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It never happens. Least of all for a murder case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Does this count as murder? https://www.history.com/news/the-original-wild-west-showdown-bill-hickok-davis-tutt

He got arrested after killing someone and the jury found him not guilty with a lot of witnesses seeing the act.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

I don't think something that happened in the 1800s is particularly applicable to the 21st century.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I don't think it will happen, and especially not for something this high profile, but Jury Nullification is essentially the "he did it, but we don't see his actions as punishable". It'd be a huge uproar if that happened too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The civil suits will destroy him even if he's found not guilty. He doesn't win either way either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Oh I could easily see him winning the Criminal Case and losing a Civil.

They'd probably not even care during the Civil Case if he killed Brian or not, they'd just talk about how "Because the news cycle about Louie G over here we lost stonks."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago

The darker part of my psyche is a little giddy at the idea of CEOs shitting their boots cause there's a man on the loose in the world who is willing and able to murder them and that no one will ever convict him.

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 day ago (35 children)

Jesus christ guys, does it get more vapid than consumerism as revolt?

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Here I am wondering how people afford to shop at Nordstrom while also being annoyed by the consumerism bullshit that is a blight on us all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

We don't have to solve every problem at all times. We are certainly allowed to narrow our focus here, from "everything that has ever sucked" to "enact universal healthcare now".

Let's keep our eyes on that ball.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

They’re in debt.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How do people even find out this stuff? Is there a reddit post saying I FOUND HIS SWEATER or something? Same with the backpack.

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