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Guys check out pixelfed. Its better than Instagram.Same concept of fediverse as Lemmy and Mastodon.

Website: https://pixelfed.org

Servers: https://pixelfed.org/servers

Even has a android client called pixeldroid on fdroid.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I love the idea of this, but the only reason I check Instagram is to see what my friends are posting, which I couldn’t do on an alternative, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That really is an issue. Shave your head, put an orange robe on and evangelize... I'll try to convince as many people as possible in my friends circle!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is actually why I’m excited for ActivityPub in Threads. I’m hoping that it can function as a gateway drug to the Fediverse.

“Like Threads? Then continue to follow all your friends there while moving to an ad-free Mastodon client!”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Totally, I really wish the panic would die down. I'd love it if I could bring my friends over here, and there's no way they're going to do that without something like Threads.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instagram also has a full account data export feature, and Pixelfed can import from that data. When I used it earlier this week it seemed to ignore my latest posts, which use the webp format instead of jpg or png. But since the import is processed server-side once they resolve that I should be able to import from the same zip and get just those missing posts.

[–] fr33man 6 points 1 year ago

I didn't know this was possible! Thanks for sharing, will give this a try.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

I don't really understand how that would work. I'm on Instagram because I follow some specific artists, collectives, companies, labels, etc., and secondarily for friends. If those are not on Pixelfed, what is there to follow?

Although Lemmy suffers of quite a content draught on less populated communities, it still works like Reddit since you follow topics, not people.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hate the be a downer but I can’t see anyone but “tech savvy” people joining this. I can’t even get my sister to verify her Zelle account to get money I sent her. Having to choose a server is going to be wildly confusing to most people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Out of curiosity how would you choose a server? I joined Lenny.ml as it was the first one I saw.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I joined after the Apollo debacle started with Reddit, so I joined what had the most users at that moment and it was lemmy.world. But I already had a good idea of how these federated apps work, so I wasn’t super worried about which I picked. I imagine a random normie instagram user would delete the app as soon as they saw the list of servers, if they even got that far.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Go to their homepage and see what the general vibe is of the posts, you can tell almost immediately what it's all about.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Well, to be fair, Zelle sucks, but point taken.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're adding support to sign up to pixelfed with your mastodon account as well. Pretty neat.
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110671802845980100

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Instagram differs from Reddit in the sense that most people use Instagram because that's where their friends and family are. You're posting more personal things there. An alternative doesn't really work for most users if no one they know is using it. Good luck with the push, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is the issue I have. I wouldn't even be on instagram if it my friends weren't on it. Pixelfed has a much tougher road to snatch users than a place like Lemmy or even Mastodon for that reason. If everyone I know hopped over with me (which let's be real, I would never be able to get everyone to do that because they would run into the same issue with their own friend networks) then i'd gladly move over.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Maybe I should give it a try. I've been on instragram for like 10 years and I'm quite proud of the quality of content on my page (smartphone nature photography) but I only have like 23 followers and posting there seems like talking to trees. Why even bother if people rather watch short videos instead of photos.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep you need pretty girls in your photos, shorts, reels, stories, 20hashtags per image, and co stant interaction bait just to gain some bot followers

I quit a few years back and do not miss it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I mean, yes if your goal is to have many followers on Instagram. I mainly use Instagram to share stuff with family and friends, because this is the only app which all of them use.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like pixelfed. I have a pixelfed account, and feature-wise, I see how it could replace someone's use of instagram, but personally, I was never on instagram for its features. I was on instagram because I made friends in real life who I couldn't keep in touch with in absolutely any other way. Meanwhile, I am on pixelfed because I like the idea of a federated social media platform based around images, but I have zero connections on that platform.

I posted to it twice. Then, I realized that, unless I could convince the people that I knew on instagram to join pixelfed, it would never be the same experience, so I stopped. I would just rather post pictures to my mastodon account which has more reach than my pixelfed. The concept of an image based social media platform is less compelling when you don't know anyone there, and this is what Meta is banking on.

Sure, there are alternatives to Instagram that are better, but all of my IRL friends & family are on Meta platforms already and don't want to leave 🤷‍♀️, so what's the point? Even if I manage to convince someone that it is important, they might bail at some point because they can't convince the people they know from instagram to join the alternative, and that's how it is all down the line: friction, friction, friction.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I think you’re spot on. I use Instagram for one niche sport I do, hydrofoil surfing. Everyone who foils is on there, and as a result the development speed of this 5-year-old sport is incredible. Someone in Australia invents a new maneuver, posts a video of it, and a few hours later while they’re sleeping people in America are trying it out.

None of that is happening on pixelfed. I tried it out too, and, meh. There’s just nothing interesting on there, and it’s too complicated to explain to non techies. So there’s a huge barrier to entry and no compelling reason to surmount it. Heck, I have an advanced degree in informatics and I barely made it over the choose an instance wall. My perma-stoned surfing buddies don’t stand a chance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Here's a good reason. Since Facebook likes to spy on you, I put Instagram on my work profile on Android, effectively sandboxing it. I'd had the account for several years at this point. Just the other day, it told me that my account had been flagged for violating the rules and trying to access data I wasn't supposed to have access to. It asked me to upload an image of myself with a code written on a piece of paper to prove I wasn't a bot, and they still deleted my profile and said I was acting as a bot and that I could not appeal the decision or talk to a human about it.

I agree it's a bit of a pain to get people to join these nerd apps, but man, it beats dealing with non-interactive bot/algorithm, punishing you for fighting back against having your information stolen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The only reason I use Instagram is to see my friends' statuses. I don't use Snapchat, so it's basically the only way for me to see what others are doing. Reddit didn't really have any personal aspect, so it was easy to switch to Lemmy. But I don't think I'm gonna leave Instagram anytime soon.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Yoz I've been on Pixelfed for about a year; highly enjoyable. All the good of instagram without the celebrities and "influencers". I also follow my Pixelfed account from my mastodon so I can boost to all of my mastodon followers as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've never used Instagram before but I would like to start posting photos, however the vibe I'm getting from Pixelfed is this is a medium for photography art. I'm learning to facet gemstones and thought it would be cool to do photos of my gems that I cut to show my talent progress. Would that kind of non-photography art fit in on Pixelfed?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes. I follow some guy (gal?) who does ceramic jewelry work. the only way to make the fediverse more interesting is by adding multiple perspectives, hobbies and interests. your content will undoubtedly be welcomed.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@meggied90 I'm not a photographer in any sense; I literally post the same things I would have posted on instagram - restaurants, things I see on daily walks, family photos. I follow people who post their exercises/run routes, dogs, whatever. I got the same initial vibe you mentioned, but I assure you, it has been an extremely welcoming community to me.

@Yoz

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The two servers in the UK are a furry server and a Scotland server....

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Unlike Lemmy, instagram and twitter rely heavily on their content creators.

No content creators, no followers, no traffic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are there any mobile apps for pixelfed?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The creator has an official app pending in the iOS App Store right now.

In addition, they’re releasing a “log in with Mastsdon” feature within like the next 24 hours.

Creator here: https://mastodon.social/@dansup

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, several. An official app and a good number of other 3rd party apps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

PixelDroid is the main app for Pixelfed. It is not the official app, that is still in development.

You can also login to pixelfed from https://tusky.app

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

What are some good places to follow on Pixelfed? I haven't had much luck finding accounts that appeal to me. I'd love to replace Instagram, but their algorithm is so damn good, and I'm struggling to find stuff that compares (which I'd expect since it doesn't hold the same "influencer" weight and has a smaller community to begin with)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Kbin replaces Reddit for me.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only wish it was easier for me to find people to follow, really wish more people I knew IRL joined PixelFed

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't be on what amounts to the bleeding edge of Social Media and expect your friends to be as well unless they're all nerds that actually care about such things (like all of us clearly are).

No social media site started with millions of users and all of your friends. They all started small, and slowly grew to that size.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Well said, the problem is, I post nothing on instagram. So my presence on pixelfed is not at all a reason for anyone in my circle to join lol. I imagine since we're all the nerds of our families/friend-groups here, this is probably the case for a lot of us.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The only reason I use Instagram is because everyone I know IRL is on there.

Same with snapchat.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the instance admin able to view posts/messages of private accounts like they can do on Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your private messages are never private unless you're on a platform that specializes in private messages (Signal. Matrix, WhatsApp (if they are to be believed), XMPP via OMEMO...)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Love PixelFed, I just like chronological and tag based systems. This way every user gets an equal opportunity to be seen. Unlike what's happening with recommendation systems, where only a few super stars are pushed by the algorithms. If anyone like traditional illustrations, here's my profile: https://pixelfed.social/i/web/profile/495699973550816234

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Pixeldroid is a third party app. Pixelfed has their own official app as well if that matters to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Taking a quick glance of Pixelfed now, and while I don’t think I quite understand it, I didn’t really understand Instagram either

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tusky, the Mastodon app for Android, works with pixelfed as well.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, I can't say the same thing that happened with reddit can happen with instagram/snapchat/Twitter simply because their users don't give a fuck. The familiarity and existence of large content creators on those platforms create a much greater reluctance for their users to make the switch. Better alternatives for all have existed for years and yet no change took place because quality or ideology just wasn't the reason people preferred those apps. It was what it is and even for me, similar to many people, making the swith just isn't sensible as it wouldn't mean shit without convincing 300+ people im connected to to make the switch with me and then again, they don't care.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I don't understand Instagram, Facebook or Twitter, so I really have no use for Pixelfed or Mastodon.

Edit: I really don't know why my top level comments get posted as a reply...

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