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Current breakdown at the time of this post sorted by the number of monthly active users:

  1. lemmy.world: 101,013 total users / 27,472 active users
  2. lemmy.ml: 41,972 total users / 4,905 active users
  3. beehaw.org: 12,270 total users / 4,178 active users
  4. sh.itjust.works: 17,509 total users / 3,381 active users
  5. feddit.de: 8,675 total users / 2,935 active users
  6. lemm.ee: 10,348 total users / 2,751 active users
  7. lemmynsfw.com: 22,967 total users / 2,310 active users
  8. lemmy.fmhy.ml: 8,777 total users / 1,704 active users
  9. lemmy.ca: 5,072 total users / 1,656 active users
  10. programming.dev: 5,058 total users / 1,242 active users

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[–] [email protected] 229 points 1 year ago (34 children)

That's pretty cool.

I'm truly not being a negative nancy but the last time I checked reddit had 400M user accounts. We should be comparing active user numbers, but either way, this is a drop in the bucket and reddit rightly does not consider Lemmy a threat to its supremacy at this point.

We're doing great though! Good trajectory.

[–] [email protected] 375 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don't need Lemmy to compete with or kill Reddit. All I wanted was any one platform to get enough of an influx of users to be self-sustaining even after the outrage started to die down, which appears to have been successful.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah as long as we have an active enough community here it doesn’t matter what goes on at reddit.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It kinda does in that when things worsen, more people come to Lemmy, but I agree that Lemmy's success doesn't depend on reddit's demise.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. I don’t want or need to build another McDonalds or Starbucks; I just want to go to the Mom and Pop down the road without worrying if they’ll tank.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. Just give me some decent posts and discussion. For niche things I can go to a big platform with all the users. For my daily browsing, I appreciate a small but active community.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I don’t care if I’m talking to millions of people vs hundreds of thousands as long as there are enough people to make it feel alive and like a community.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I don't give a fuck about Reddit any more. I'd rather be in a niche community with (some) quality content than on some huge site with mainly reposts. We're not in competition with Reddit. Were trying to be a better alternative.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

It’s a hard habit to break, because we’ve been trained to think this way for years, but try to remember: we don’t need to attract millions of users to be valuable. This isn’t a commercial enterprise. We don’t sell advertising. We don’t measure success by the number of eyeballs we can promise paying customers.

What matters now is the quality of conversation. In fact, that’s the ONLY measure of any consequence. It’s strange, because in the past, someone’s often tried to use services like this as a way to make money, or as a way to make something else they were selling more attractive. We expected it. It was always in the back of our heads. It even got to the point that if a company did something that wasn’t an effort to increase profitability, we criticized them. Generosity, real generosity, was alien to us.

It’s hard to wrap your head around the idea that people volunteer their time and money to build and maintain the fediverse, simply because they want us to be able to communicate. That’s it. There’s no hidden agenda. There’s no quest for profit at our expense.

I’m perfectly fine with the fediverse growing slowly. I don’t want it to be strained beyond what the mods can handle. Bigger isn’t necessarily better.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

for me i'm over comparing to Reddit, I'm just looking for somewhere in a similar format but without a bunch of the issues that I can enjoy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m truly not being a negative nancy but the last time I checked reddit had 400M user accounts. We should be comparing active user numbers, but either way, this is a drop in the bucket and reddit rightly does not consider Lemmy a threat to its supremacy at this point.

Even when considering accounts across all lemmy instances, it still only combines for a total of 2 million. But overall I'm optimistic about lemmy's trajectory too.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Sorry dude, you'll have to subtract one unfortunately. I created a NSFW account to have two different home feeds.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ummm. I have a friend that has a 2nd NSFW account too.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think I can confidently say now that this is a legit Reddit alternative

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Not to be the fly in the ointment, but you can't really just add those up and expect that number to be accurate if we're trying to look at unique users within the fediverse. If I had to hazard a guess, a not-so-insignificant chunk of those probably overlap (i.e. users who have made multiple accounts across several instances). I have made an account across lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, kbin and fedia just as backups in case one instance fails. I might be an extreme case having 4, but pretty sure it's becoming increasingly common for people to have at least 2 accounts (1 on a different instance).

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

With this same logic in mind, I'd assume almost the entire population of lemmynsfw should be disregarded from this count, which is almost certainly majority comprised of people's porn alts that they want to keep separate from their main accounts.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How many if you include kbin?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call me when it's 1,234,567.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I don't wanna make that many alts...

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I wonder how many of these are unique? I'm sure that many, like myself, have created accounts on more than 1 instance.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Everybody needs at least two. One for regular interaction, and another for porn. I mean for science.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm just curious what the nsfw patch does

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

There is some stuff like auto expanding content and not blurring NSFW content. Simple stuff. Hoping those features will make it back up into Lemmy soon.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that Lemmy does need more of the right exposure.

If you search for any Lemmy content on Google or Duck-Duck-Go, you don’t get any good results. This is probably because most people use Apps or secure browsers that don’t allow tracking.

Maybe Duck-Duck-Go need to have a !bang search modifier for Lemmy. https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Doing course correction in fixing social media is a long game. It'll take a while, and there'll be turbulence, but this is a great start

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Rather have 240k users here than 240m on reddit.

Sometimes it's the quality of the shit posts and not the post shits.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Aww poor lemmy.dbzer0.com not top ten. 😭So close at #11 though!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

The riches of dbzer0 shall remain hidden for now.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How is lemmy.ca not in Canada?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

We're just behind cloudflare, the server itself and all us admins are Canadian.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It is surprising. A month ago they were Canadian servers, @[email protected] moved it to lunanode (Canadian). ~~Perhaps CDN was moved or the whole machine was moved to a cheaper hosting platform since it got very big from then and is under new admin management as of a week ago-ish.~~

Edit: found the answer from @[email protected], TL:DR is CloudFlare

Correct! The server running this and all data is stored in Canada.

Here's a blurb from a doc I'm working on:

Lemmy.ca is hosted in Canada at OVH in Beauharnois, QC with all data on a dedicated server. Backups are PGP encrypted and pushed to the OVH backup service, however these will be moved off-site in the near future.

We use Cloudflare as a security and performance layer in front of the server. They accept the traffic for Lemmy.ca through a worldwide network of ingestion points, scrub it of abusive traffic, cache the images, and pass it through an encrypted tunnel to our server. This means they can see in plain text the data sent between us including your credentials, posts, comments and images. You can read more about their policies at https://www.cloudflare.com/trust-hub/.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

great. slowly transitioning into Lemmy from now on becuz fuck reddit

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I’m old enough to remember a simpler time before lemm.ee was in the top 10 largest instances (it was 2 days ago when I signed up)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and I mean, why not?

fuck reddit, and any corporation that takes advantages of its users like reddit.

We are the ones who give you value, not vica versa. Their IPO depends on how many users they have. Not on the capabilities of your app. And they treated it vica versa.

From then I just made my parade for pro-privacy and for pro-anticorp that takes advantage of its users, deleted my META account thus my Instagram, Messenger etc. My Discord. I dont care anymore. Even if I dont have now I will find someday other options. Better or not, they are options. And Lemmy seems a very good one, even better I would say, just not as user friendly - yet. (Not that reddit's app was good but we all knew that we had to use apollo/boost anyway)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A quarter million users and that's not even with all the different instances.

Very cool. Just remember folks, don't forget to diversify and decentralize! These other instances have some interesting posts and conversations, and by spreading out we make sure no single instance or community can break the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Lemmy.world is gone forever for me. 😂 If I sign in, it tells me my log in is wrong. Then I sign on the web, it tells me to enter the 2FA code, I have never set up 2FA. Signed up with another email, kept saying captcha was wrong, then just failed and kept saying user already exists. Tried to log in with the new email that it told me it already existed, then it tells me wrong log in. I just gave up

Edit: this has been very bizarre. Resetting the password sometimes works on the mobile browser only, but not on the desktop. Then now it just never works anymore. I already reset the password once and used it to log in, but on apps it gives an "invalid token" error, on the browser it asks me to enter my 2FA code, but I've never set that. When I try to reset the password again, nothing happens [email protected] would you be able to take a look at this for me, please? I don't know if that's the right way to mention someone. /u/Ruud

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You need to clear your cookies for Lemmy.world

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

well yeah, because fuck reddit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Lemmy.nz here

I think it is cool that it is coming up on nearly 2 million across all ~1200 instances.

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