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Apple considered ditching Google for DuckDuckGo in Safari’s private mode | But Apple exec argued DuckDuckGo wasn't as private as believed.::But Apple exec argued DuckDuckGo wasn't as private as believed.

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[–] [email protected] 194 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The classic "let's use the worst option because the alternative isn't perfect" fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ironically suitable for Apple products.

[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still more private than google.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just not being Google is sometimes enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently Google is paying Apple upwards of $20B per year now for search default, so it’s not hard to see why they’re sticking with Google. It does highlight one of many potential anti-trust violations.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just goes to show that for all of Apple's bullshit marketing, they care more about money than anyone's privacy. I'm tired of people characterizing Apple like they're a privacy company.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The amount of shits given about privacy is directly linked to the amount of money made from doing so.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I think Apple still cares more for user privacy than just about any other consumer electronic company out there today. Google’s Play Services mines way more user data than iOS does. However, Apple’s foray into Services will no doubt start them well down the slippery slope of monitoring and monetization, so I think erosion is inevitable to fuel Services revenue.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considered is doing lots of work in this title

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Samsung considered too...for a whole lot of 2 days before saying "nah".

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not as great as an Apple Exec, but I think he's wrong.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I think you are.

The bar is not a high one, if that is his best argument for avoiding Google.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google results have been garbage for a while. I wanted a recipe for chicken. Not someone's life story with a recipe bookend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's a SEO thing that I can't really blame them for. A longer result is probably a better one most of the time.

People are getting much better about "jump to recipe" buttons though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In iOS 17, Apple recently made it easier to use alternatives to Google search in the Safari web browser's private browsing mode—but the company considered going even further by making DuckDuckGo, which is marketed as a more private alternative, the default choice in that context.

As reported by Bloomberg's Leah Nylen, the information came to light when Amit Mehta, the US District Judge who is handling the US antitrust trial over Google search, unsealed transcripts of testimonies by DuckDuckGo CEO Gabriel Weinberg and Apple SVP of machine learning and AI strategy John Giannandrea.

Giannandrea worked as Google's head of search before his current role at Apple.

These conversations happened in the wider context of the antitrust trial over Google search, which, by some estimates, accounts for 90 percent of the market.

Judge Mehta is looking closely at Google's deal with Apple as the trial weighs whether the search giant's dominance is anti-competitive in the US.

For DuckDuckGo's part, a company spokesperson was quoted in Bloomberg saying that the search engine takes measures to prevent "hosting and content providers from creating a history of your searches," in contrast to Giannandrea's statement that DuckDuckGo wasn't as comprehensively private as it claimed.


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[–] Ginjutsu 5 points 1 year ago

Man, that would be huge for DuckDuckGo if this were to happen.