Pixels are only great for putting GrapheneOS on them.
this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2023
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I have calyx os and it works well
Sure, Calyx is a good choice too. Is there particular reason why you picked CalyxOS over GrapheneOS? Graphene has pretty much all of the features of Calyx and it even has better support for Google Play Services, as it just sandboxes them instead of using the microG reimplementation. That way, it passes SafetyNet checks and most banking apps work. It's also much more secure and even used by people like Edward Snowden, as it fundamentally improves the Android security model, by hardening the Linux Kernel, SELinux/SE for Android policies and using it's custom hardened memory allocator that was ported from OpenBSD. Calyx is definitely much better than the Stock OS or other ROMs like LineageOS, but I think GrapheneOS is far superior.
I wanted to use micro g and trough that it was more secure . I m not against using grapheneos. I m considering switching to compare. The for your info
More in depth information about why microG is not recommended:
microG (UnifiedNLP) has an insecure implementation of which has had severe security vulnerabilities including leaking location data to apps which should not be able to access it due to restrictions. They fixed some but not all of it. It used to not enforce foreground-only, etc.
microG also downloads and runs Google Play binaries with special privileges. Claiming that the microG open source is open source and our compatibility layer approach is not is simply inaccurate. Techlore forum and community are incredibly toxic and not a reliable source of info.
Sources:
I find this so weird. If you hear two people talk about Linux distros, it's like "yeah cool but I use arch btw". When calyxos is mentioned it's, "okay but why, graphene does it better", it's very hostile. Just let the dude say they like a phone os without aggressively spewing your rehearsed debate points.
CalyxOS gives people a false sense of security.
CalyxOS is not a hardened OS. It substantially reduces security. It regularly goes months not shipping critical security patches.
Source: https://nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/1708940940419707189#m
Just let people enjoy things instead of debating them
I agree. I bought 2nd hand pixel 5 just to install GrapheneOS
Good to know. Have a Pixel 6 which I like, may through this on in a year or so. Any OS recommendations for an older Moto G Stylus?
DivestOS might work. In my opinion, it's the best ROM for non-pixel devices. You can also go with LineageOS, but it has some serious issues. It might be better to keep the stock ROM as long as it's supported and updated and to remove all the bloatware/spyware using the Universal Android Debloater. You can also use a Firewall like NetGuard to block internet access to certain apps and use a DNS Filter like NextDNS to block known tracking domains. NetGuard isn't perfect though, and it can be bypassed. The same goes for NextDNS. It's better than an insecure, unpatched OS though.
Thank you, will give it a try!
It could be more if they shipped more countries
Only if they have some sensible pricing to go along with it.
Yeah, I don't understand why they are limiting themselves to like 5 countries in the world. They could be a huge deal, especially in Europe.
They are slowly increasing the number of countries where it's available, but way too slowly.
I'm one of those shipments.
And then I returned it. Hated the phone.