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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing I wish men's attire had that women's has is thumb holes on hoodies. This article has to be bulkshit otherwise because, yeah, pockets are cool.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a men’s hoodie from Bench that had those thumb holes. Loved it.

They’re out there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Super rare for men's but almost standard issue for women's. I was given a school hoody when I started my Masters program that had a thumb holes. I said, "wait a minute", checked the tag and it was a women's. Super bummed I spent $45k and no thumb holes when swapped for the men's.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If you don't mind being a billboard, the Noctua hoodie is amazing and has thumb holes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Women’s pants don’t have pockets because putting stuff in your pockets causes weird bagging on your upper thighs and ruins the silhouette of the pants. However, I do agree the utility of having pockets is hard to live without.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I'm more convinced the lack of pockets is to force women to buy handbags and purses. That weird bagging can definitely be designed out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Women's pants don't have pockets because it's a way to force them to buy purses.

Every person ever who has said that this is purely due to women's choice needs to go shop for pants once. It's a miracle to be able to find a single pair of pants that either isn't 6 inches too long or 3 inches too wide at the waist. Women don't have luxury of choosing pockets when most pants are either so long they drag through every puddle or too wide to the point of showing the whole ass crack when sitting down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have the exact same problems finding men's pants. The leg length never makes sense with waist size. Not to mention being a skinny guy having one pair of pants in my size in the entire store, if I'm lucky. I almost always have to settle for at least one size to big.

They do have pockets though.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It reminds me of a Jerry Seinfeld bit:

“I think we should all wear the same exact clothes. Because it seems to be what happens eventually, anyway. Anytime you see a movie or a TV show where there’s people from the future or another planet, they’re all wearing the same outfit. I think the decision just gets made: “All right, everyone, from now on, it’s just gonna be the one-piece silver suit with the V stripe and the boots. That’s the outfit. We’re gonna be visiting other planets, we wanna look like a team here. The individuality thing is over.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of the skant from star trek

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile, as a lady, I’ve started buying men’s tee shirts exclusively. Maybe I’ll turn to men’s pants for pockets next.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Look at us all making choices that we can make!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Men's pants are also great!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

From my experience men's jeans are cheaper than women's. And they have something very important that women's jeans just don't have. Decent pockets.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even "loose fit" jeans are too tight for me, I don't think I could physically wear women's jeans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is true that women’s pants sit closer to the skin, and yet women’s pants tend to be made out of a much higher percentage of latex so they stretch more than men’s pants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't have hips or an ass so I'm not sure it would benefit me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you have enough room for balls in woman's pants?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

By contrast, in menswear: “There’s no subtlety or consideration that you might want to accentuate your body in some way,” he says.

I don't want to accentuate my body in any way. Is there clothing for that?

Edit: Looking at myself in the mirror, wearing straight leg boot cut jeans and a poncho, looking like an extra in a spaghetti western, I can't help feeling like this accentuates my giant head.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wide leg, straight, bootcut.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I can't help feeling like this accentuates my giant head.

10 gallon hat will make your head look smaller by comparison. Might as well complete the look!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I used to wear women's skinny jeans as a teenager because they were skinnier and easier to find than men's at the time.

The men's stuff was more of a slim-fit, rather than an actual skinny fit. The shallow pockets sucked, but otherwise they looked much better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Earlier this year, a frenzy of unisex affordability gripped TikTok’s menswear followers when a series of videos championed a stretchy, sleeveless vest from the women’s section of Target, the US supermarket.

Over the past year, thanks to countless images of Jeremy Allen White from The Bear, as well as the catwalks of Bottega Veneta, Dolce & Gabbana and Ami, sleeveless vests have played a starring role.

In the 70s, musicians such as David Bowie and punk encouraged a culture of sartorial androgyny that reached its peak with the new romantics, while in the late 80s and 90s, masculinity was consistently challenged by designers such as Marc Jacobs and Jean Paul Gaultier, famously the first to dress men in skirts on the catwalk.

According to a 2022 study by Klarna, the Swedish financial services company, 70% of consumers have expressed an interest in buying gender-neutral clothing in future, and unisex brands such as Telfar, Entireworld, MC Overalls and Riley Studio plan to meet the demand.

Biedul has since refined his taste, particularly when it comes to women’s tailoring – something Prince Harry seems to have discovered, too, when he was spotted allegedly wearing Meghan’s jacket – and recently picked up a chocolate-brown suit from Jil Sander, the German designer.

“We have always seen our community shopping across both departments and when we create our collection, we often see pieces we believe in for all genders,” says Karin Gustafsson, design director at Cos, who notes that men often buy into the brand’s rounded, cropped trouser cut for women.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What kind of vest has sleeves? Isn't that a shirt?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are dozens of you all! Dozens!