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A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging​ her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.

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[–] [email protected] 352 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is the consequence of the hatred that transphobes, garden variety conservatives and TERFs alike, have stoked. And the narrative that the media has gleefully ran with.

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays is genuinely scary in a way I think a lot of people don't fully understand. And of course when femininity is being policed, women of colour tend to suffer too, even if they are cisgender.

[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you're so anti-trans you loop around and become anti-cis.

I think these people might just be anti-women.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago

DING DING DING. They can "get away with" hating trans women more easily, but it's just a stepping stone on the way to Gilead for them.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Racism, Misogyny and transphobia have always come from a similar place and build off of each other. They share the same narratives and the same desire for ostracization and oppression. Bigots will always ally with other bigots, as this hatred is not rational and only someone with similarly irrational hate could support you. Dig enough in bigoted communities and you are certain to find all different kinds of hatred.

That's why TERF communities are infested with homophobia, misogyny, racism, antisemitism and Islamophobia. Over time the concentration of white supremacy and nazism has grown exponentially in terf communities. Nazis share many of the same goals and many of the same conspiracies that terfs do. And prominent terfs like Kelly Jay Keen openly ally with Christian white nationalists around the world.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago

The instigators responsible will keep getting away with it. They're very careful to use the right dog whistles and key words to avoid getting deplatformed and they still cause their followers to act like this.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays

And she's neither of those things anyhow. She will find out the guy's name & address in Discovery & he will go to prison for hate crime + assault.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel we need to change that little children's rhyme to be a bit more accurate

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can lead to pogroms" or something like that

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[–] [email protected] 211 points 1 year ago (8 children)

When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.

Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

"Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so."

"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”'

JFC

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Almost like pointless hate makes the world a bit shitter.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago

Disagree. Not a bit, a whole lot more shittier.

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[–] [email protected] 174 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is what transphobia has to offer. Transphobia and TERFS are inherently misogynistic because they start to attack every single woman that doesn't fit into the worldview of a few people.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah, transohibia, anti gay, racism, anti immigrant, anti religion - intolerance is ugly, evil and the worst of humanity

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it still a hate crime if they were wrong about the person's identity? Imo it should be.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

If you committed a crime because of the perception of an individual falling under a protected class, it should qualify as a hate crime. I believe this is considered a bias incident and it is treated as a hate crime in NYC.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course it qualifies as a hate crime. Hate crime legislation is entirely about what you think inside your head as you commit some other crime - hence the word "hate".

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

IIRC NY is a transfer of intent state, that is to say if you intended to kill X person but fucked up and killed Y person instead, you're still guilty of 1st degree murder, because you still intended to do a murder

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago

Oh that sounds like a perfectly normal reaction to someone different from you

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, this is being called a misunderstanding? I don't think whoever wrote that actually understands that word...

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The misunderstanding was what started the fight (he thought she was haggling for prices, not that she was trying to verify the price of things to make sure she bought the right weed for her friend), not the transphobic attack.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

We're getting physical with people for haggling prices now? Canal street about to get wild.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

As in: 'Miss, understand, I don't give a fuck about your rights.'

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago

A sad reminder that transphobia and other forms of hate affect us all, not just the ones who are primarily targeted.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Are you guys over the Atlantic feeling well? Is everything ok?

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago

Haggling isn't illegal. She needs to sue the deli owner as well for hiring & protecting that shithead. I hope she takes everything they have.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What does the pot have to do with someone being a hateful idiot? I’m not sure what the headline is trying to tell me

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

She looks like a trans and she smokes the pot! She deserved it!

/s if not obvious enough

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

Victim blaming. "She's a filthy bisexual pot buyer!" It wasn't even for her.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cops knew the attacker and subsequently avoided any real investigation. Classic bastard behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The headline just kept getting worse huh?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Key takeaway.... they sell weed at deli's in NYC?

That's interesting. Around here it's all thru a licensed shop.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People should read this article.

I came into it assuming it was some crazy Karen attacking a butch looking lady. It's not. The guy in that picture is young, and in good shape. She wasn't just dragged outside, he has her pinned between the curb and a car, she's clearly terrified and he is clearly in a rage.

It doesn't seem like he really mistook her as trans, this lady isn't trans presenting. That was an excuse he threw out right before he maced her, but after he started arguing with her about the nature of her phone call because he thought she was trying to haggle with him on weed prices.

This is a very detailed account of an aggressive armed assault on a customer from a cashier. It's insane to me that the store manager just refuses to cooperate with any authorities to hand over the name of the employee who, allegedly, openly attacked and assaulted a woman for no reason.

This is a dark story about a maniac who randomly attacked someone. He should be in cuffs.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Geez this is where we're at. Fueled by Fox and the right wing needing a bogeyman at all times.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, that was a pretty insane sentence...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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