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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or it is that seasoned chared flesh is really tasty. One of those two.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The way I do it (cast iron pan on the BBQ, screamin' hot at 700+C) is super delicious. So much so that I think I might fire up a steak this weekend. Gotta check the weather forecast to see if it's worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Fellas, is it gay to eat a salad?"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

„I don’t know. Wanna toss mine?“

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Here ... let me push in your stool .... adjusts your bar stool from behind

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Avoid eating from the rainbow!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And so is heart disease. Nothing more masculine as dropping from a clogged heart.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or diabetes and GERD ... nothing like frothing at the mouth with a diabetic attack or sleeping with a breathing mask and oxygen to make you look like a man.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

As a diabetic your example, well intentioned as it may be, is completely wrong in pretty much every way.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Pretty bad editorialising of the headline there, OP. That's really not what the study showed. It was more nuanced than that.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (6 children)

No its because it tastes good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Sauces, marinades, vegtable broth and spices taste good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Look up the history and origin of making gravy and sauces ... modern gravies and sauces were started and developed in the Middle Ages for beef and meat dishes to mask the taste of rotten or semi rotten food.

Yes I know there are other sauces and gravies for vegetables ... but the little dish of gravy for your roast beef supper was started because someone just wanted their food to taste less like a rotting carcass because they had no refrigeration back then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And now they make a nice blend that wouldn't taste the same without meat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

And I didn't plan on stopping eating those either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Yeah Shure but why limit yourself from stuff that tastes good?

Just limit consumption to reasonable levels, its also a healt thing, but i don't see the need to never eat fish and meat anymore, once a week is ok.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that's 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These studies are made through a lens of "men have frail egos, how else can we frame this viewpoint".

I don't give a fuck about "masculinity" or "femininity". If it's cheap, tastes good, and isn't full of EEEEEEs, I'll buy it. Standard "aubergine", tomatoes, spring onions and whatever aren't tasty without a whole lot of prep. Fuck salads. Give me that cheap, spicy, Indian sauce that I can lather onto sweet potato purree, carrot pasta, and pickled mango... and it costs less than a dish with a fucking steak? Hell yeah I'm buying it! Steak will be what I eat when I go out.

Make another study focusing on pricing and how much money you can save per year eating veggie and I bet my ass it'll have an impact. These stupid "my gender is better than your gender" bullshit doesn't help.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They aren't peer reviewed and basically dont count as studies in a science way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Most modern social "science" papers are just "people I agree with are actually just superior people, and everyone I disagree with is stupid and dumb", with the most blatant statistics fuckery on earth

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd eat dog food if it hit my macros and tasted ok. My food choices don't dictate how masculine I feel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've discovered TVP recently. Very cheap and dense source of protein. My partner likes to joke that I'm eating dog food, and I'm starting to think that she might be right considering that dog food keeps coming up when I search for TVP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Interesting, I just searched it and yea the stuff I found does kind of look like dog food lol. I will see if I can find some and try it out. Thanks for the suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can see that, especially in the USA. Can't have those giant burgers, steaks and ribs made from tofu or soy can you?

All those cowboys would be out of a job, and I bet the NRA are having none of it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's not rooted in masculinity, though, but rather "American exceptionalism".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Reminds me of a recent video by Our Changing Climate about how patriarchy may be driving/energizing the climate crisis. It's on Nebula or Youtube for anyone who wants to watch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It seems to be an EU-based study. The design part of the paper doesn't say which nationalities were studied, although maybe they mention it elsewhere in the document. I'd be interested in this because it's very much a cultural thing. There are part of the world where vegetarian food is the norm for both men and women.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's from australia

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The article at least says "The researchers conducted an online experiment with 593 participants in Germany" so it's probably primarily Germans?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Africa .... check the rates of heart disease and intestinal problems in most African nations compared to the US and Canada. They may suffer from all kinds of other preventable diseases, malnutrition and violent conflict ... but they don't suffer from over indulgence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Which populations in Africa? It's not like everybody's the same across the continent. Have there been any studies ruling out other health-boosting factors like minimization of ultra-processed food and higher levels of exercise? (Generalizations about Africa tend to draw on stereotypes that are often quite unrealistic.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I find it interesting how most of those "studies" take a very shallow approach with main premise: how to perrle vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. I have no problem with folks eating whatever the heck they like, but stop peddling me your preferences based on pseudo-science. I've been eating "clean" for over a decade now amd I can say with certainty that vegetarian/vegan diet will near damn kill me at best it'll cripple me: sensitive to gluten, sugar and nuts, baloon from carbs. Not dealing great with soy etc. Any in-store "vegan" choices nutrutionally inferior to non-vegan as it stands (I do not say they are inheritently so but that the current fact). Industry is busy using adversarial politics pushing more addictive and harmful stuff onto our collective plates and we say nothing.

There's not such thing as "universal dietary profile". I.e. we need our choices across entire spectrum. Some of us can't tolerate certain foods, and that's not the reason to vilify or victimize.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Meat is threatening their masculinity if they ditch it? /j

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