Customizing the scrollbar on Firefox using CSS is different so many sites don't even bother and keep the default one
this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2023
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Overlay scrollbars. Luckily in gnome and kde plasma you can disable them and get real always visible scrollbars
According to the article they took away the override setting in GTK4 and they aren't bringing it back
Sounds pretty on brand for gnome ngl
I'll see ones that seem to show up visually but I've never ever been able to click onto it and move it.
I bought a macropad with knobs just because of this... (I use a Wacom tablet in place of a mouse and it doesn't have a worthy scrollwheel alternative, so I couldn't navigate many "modern" websites and programs)
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Seems like I'm gonna get downvoted for this, but I'm all about that out of sight, out of mind vibe when it comes to things that aren't used often.
nevertheless it would not hurt to have at least some options on how to display the scrollbars (if at all)
options
There's the keyword. There should be easy to navigate settings for this.
The problem with modern designers and developers is that they push the narrative that there is "one" way to do things so they don't have to maintain different configurations.
It's lazy. It's incompetent. It's what makes them more money for doing less work.
The solution is to have higher standards. Don't let these fools tell you what you want just so their jobs are easier.
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The text boxes full of text, with both a horizontal and vertical scroll bar, on a page with a scroll bar. When I use the mouse wheel near the bottom of the text it scrolls right, towards the right it scrolls down, but I actually wanted to scroll the page down.
Misc. forenote: not sure if true on all systems but on mine, if you right-click on the scroll bar it acts similar to the old scrollbar arrows (in my file manager it's slower, but moving the mouse speeds it up)
My eyesight is not the best (and my screen isn't that big), but I still don't mind it (for example Firefox). I like that it doesn't seem to change content width (even expanded, it's still in the margins with my higher zoom level). Though I could see using a brighter scroll bar, particularly as it gets smaller (also, a darker scrollbar background to increase contrast). Color might help for readability too.
Back when I used Chrome I didn't like the white scrollbar background and light-gray bar that was horrible contrast yet too bright (and in the corner of my eye it didn't register properly due to that). At one point I used an extension to fix that with a thinner-but-high-contrast bar.
Then again, I also made my own ultra-compact window theme for XFCE (well, XFWM). Frameless and the titlebar is 12px tall but the window buttons are only 8px tall... some of the buttons are slightly wider to compensate (minimize and maximize are widest at 20px), though I would ideally like to allow them to be wider with a wider window (with the current setup, a long-titled window will be made shorter if the buttons take up too much space on a small window).
There is some utility for this as well, as I can have a small music player on-screen or even rolled up and it doesn't block much on the screen. Though I admit it's diminishing returns, specifically without making my own WM which I am unlikely to do.
I've never even used them. I just scrolled with a mouse or the touchpad gesture, and its much more convenient.