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[–] [email protected] 187 points 10 months ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (8 children)

It's this part.

We're telling them they've gone too far, seeing rules... and giving them weapons. Are we giving them seasons so they listen?

And if they don't listen, doesn't this make us complicit and with exceedingly poor intensional optics?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They know that the worst that will happen is a stern warning. "Don't do that again, but it was justified. But don't do it... OK, just a little bit, but still."

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

How much Israeli money do you reckon went into the pockets of members of the fascist "freedom" caucus?

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Biden: "For fuck's sake, Israel, don't do something this monumentally stupid."

No points for guessing what comes next.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is it ethnic cleansing?

Oh boy!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

"Here I go killin' again!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don't think "next" is the right word.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Or what?

Edit: FYI I'm not supporting Israel doing this

[–] [email protected] 101 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Or they'll give them even more money and say some angry things about it.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Massacring civilians is fine, but occupying is a bridge too far, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I definitely get your point here, but a ground invasion would be irreversible. They would never leave Gaza

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Haven't they done it twice before? Something like 2006 and 2014?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Death is kinda irreversible too

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

warehouse workers ask Jeff Bezos not to travel by private jet

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I mean, the US does have access to the money and weapons faucet Israel relies on.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Israel won't even need to occupy Gaza after they carpet bomb whats left of it into rubble. 😒

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Biden "And definitely don't occupy 5 different countrys at the same time. Some of them for over 20 years. Come on man!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Listen here, jack!

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Yeah, what will he or the Democrats do when Israel does occupy Gaza?

Continue to provide unequivocal support and money to Israel?

It's not like they'll do anything else like officially recognize Israel has been acting as a apartheid state causing mass human suffering which in turn grew more mass suffering and conflict.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Don't you dare cross this line!

Ok don't cross this line!!

Ok don't cross THIS line!

Ok I'm going inside, if you knock, I'm not coming out.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago

After decades of turning blind eye towards Israel's crimes, suddenly Murica thinks it's going too far.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (25 children)

“I think it’d be a big mistake,” Mr. Biden told “60 Minutes” on CBS in a conversation taped on Thursday and aired on Sunday night. “Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza again.” But “taking out the extremists” there, he added, “is a necessary requirement.”

I'm not sure how anyone is taking this as a controversial take. Logistically, practically, and the urgent bloodthirst for revenge make this fucking hard to do. But this seems to me to be a pretty even keeled non polarizing take on a complex situation where there is justification for military action against a terrorist group, and that military action must be measured against the safety and needs of a civilian population.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

It's ok I told the angry pitbull to not attack the baby I slathered in steak sauce. Anyway, off to golf.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The US is sending mix signals. Biden condemns Hamas, calls them terrorists, and funds the iron dome. Of course Israel thinks they have carte blanche in the region. Surrounded by hostile nations, what other nations in the world acts as aggressive as Israel. They do it because they know they have the full backing of the US. The question is will we live in a world without any Palestinians in the middle east soon - coz that's where we're headed.

Israel misspelled their defense system. Should be called the irony dome.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I agree with you. But I'd like to add this. I live in Israel at the moment, I'm not Israeli but I moved here for my job. I live in a pretty safe area, but we still had rockets coming from Gaza and from up north Hezbolla. They were explicitly targeting civilian areas. But iron Dome and the other system, David something intercepted it. Perspective on life changes when you see a flying missile heading your way only to get intercepted by these systems. The area where I live is full of Arabs, Jews, immigrant from Eastern Europe etc. and had several pro-palastine rallies in the past couple of days, and I stand with them. Also, There have been at least 5 to 6 Hamas strikes every hour since last week, they are targeting everywhere around Israel and iron Dome is on full protection.

I just wanted to add, I don't know what for..

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (13 children)

But he said he was convinced that “the Israelis are going to do everything in their power to avoid the killing of innocent civilians.”

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago
  • wink, wink *
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