I had this brief conversation with a friend who likes to play Devil's Advocate on a lot of our discussions. I don't feel like he's a true fan of the series since he generally likes everything spewed out of Hollywood in a certain way. So I look at him as being the basis of a general audience member going into new movies and not having any preconceptions. We get into arguments a lot while I'm trying to share my frustrations on how poor something is (current Star Wars) and not having the right words to convey why it's bad.
One of the most damning things for me of this series is having Luke, who was the epitome of righteous heroism at the time, who faced off the evil Emperor and his own father alone, turn around in his old age and want to MURDER his nephew over a bad vision or dream he was having.
There were two things he said to me that made me flabbergasted. First, he asked how do we know that was the true vision? There was one where he only stood over him but the other was told by Kylo where it showed he ignited his saber. Okay, I can't refute that because it doesn't actually specifically state which one was the actual scene. It's only implied that the one he ignited his saber was real because it was the latter telling.
But then this second one blew me away even more and actually made me rethink my friendship. (In a humorous but sad way). He said instead of Luke being brave, he was a coward bitch that ran off without his friends to face his daddy issues and to die like a bitch since he throws his lightsaber away.
I COMPLETELY disagree with that last statement he made but I couldn't bring myself to argue because as a famous quote once said, "Never argue with a dumb person because they will bring you to their level and beat you with experience." Which is really sad as I've respected his insight on many things but I can't fathom this way of thinking. Is it a form a cynicism on both of our parts since we're older?
Anyway, we both just stopped and continued to play Diablo 4 in peace the rest of the night. Haha