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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Only 150k? How is that enough to start a production line for 400 euro smartphones? Or is it just a rebranded phone?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Interesting concept, but seems just like a phone with privacy switches and a non-Google OS. How is it on security, hardening? How would it compare to GrapheneOS?

To be fair, GrapheneOS does require a Pixel, but that's because those phones are the best in terms of security, and can be privacy as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I think these kinds of devices are for different audiences.

GrapheneOS would probably best suit people that don't trust the software on their device, but completely trust the hardware.

The Murena or a Pinephone with hardware switches would be ideal for someone who trusts the software, but wants the ability to control the hardware.

Practically, this appeals to people who are considering things like Qualcomm's GPS in some SoCs bypassing the OS to request almanac data, using the cellular modem directly IIRC (gets worse: unencrypted http and includes your IMEI in plaintext). This doesn't happen in Pixel devices because there it is handled in software entirely, and of course those don't use a Qualcomm SoC

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I run their OS /e/ on my fairphone 4. As someone who just uses a phone for basic stuff its the tits, no bs, no google apps required at all. The built-in tracker blocking etc is great and I like the basic interface.

Biggest bonus is that my phone lasts maybe 50% longer on a single charge. Was super easy to install too.

No paying with NFC though, but I don't mind, I always had my wallet anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Stuff like NFC payments are one of the reasons that kind of stick with stock Android. I want to use something else, but it's kind of hard for me to accept losing functionality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s open source and has aggressive privacy features so hopefully there will be data on whether it’s worthwhile soon. If it’s a good OS + has privacy focused hardware, it could be more compelling than a Pixel without hardware switches for the ultra privacy minded

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just want a de-googled 200-250€ smartphone with a headphone jack.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Get a Sony Xperia III, update the original firmware to Android 13, unlock the bootloader then install the corresponding version of LineageOS (or any GSI ROM made for 13).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't the Pixel 5 have a jack?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I actually had to check, since I never use them. No, it does not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They've always had a power button.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The fact my battery dies in a week when the phone is supposedly off tells me all I need to know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

why the fuck has it always to be an iPhone clone... it's embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Good for them. The Murena One was just a rebranded OED. This one is interesting, because of the switches, but the processor isn't exactly brand spanking new.