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[–] [email protected] 282 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I like the continued migrations from Reddit but Discord doesn’t seem like the best destination

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, to be truly useful, a community needs to be googleable. And discord is certainly not that.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you're essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.

Holding a conversation in such a large place would be near impossible from experience, no matter how many channels there are. It's just not going to be pleasant because it's not made for what they want to do.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Very large discords don’t work for chatting.

Discords with 100-300 people with around 20-30% active and 15% very active with 20% popping in occasionally for an hour or two and the rest just lurking seems like a good sweet spot for discord servers

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wad on a discord with 20 people. After ten minutes I left. How anyone had a conversation is beyond me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's a skill those of us from the IRC days cultivated.

I'm glad I'm not good at it anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Discord has threads now, works just like Reddit.

You can create a thread and people can comment on them just fine.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Looks just as clunky as the rest of discord. Sorry, its just not the same.

[–] altima_neo 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, discords a mess. Its a fine voice chat app, but for everything else, its like using a phillips screwdriver on a flat head. Yeah, you can probably muscle it out, but it aint gonna be pretty and theres better ways to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm very tech-literate but Discord has always seemed so fucking messy to me. So many channels and emojis and I barely know how to send someone a DM or add them to my friends list or whatever. How on earth are you supposed to keep track of anything?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's chaotic as fuck and nothing like reddit / lemmy / kbin.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Just a giant chat room, nothing permanent

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

and discord will perform their own major enshittification stunt sooner or later

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Discord isn't a good alternative, it's not the same type of social media site. Discord is more of a chatroom aggregator, while Reddit is more of a forum aggregator. While Reddit technically supports chats and Discord technically supports threads, in both cases they're clunky and not the main point of the site.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also centralized corporate-controlled trash, just like Reddit. I, for one, don't see the point in swapping one abusive overlord for another abusive overlord.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Discord is even worse, all the information there is locked behind a walled garten. No access without account, no way to google shit. I hate Discord, lol

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Honestly with Voyager, it’s hard to tell this ain’t Reddit lol.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

And much less accessible, login required, phone number, a ton of system resources. And a privacy nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people thought that Reddit's search was bad, they have quite the surprise waiting on discord!

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Discord is such a terrible platform for large scale communication.

Nothing pisses me off more than looking for a support link and being told you have to go to a discord. It’s terrible to search, generally requires a bunch of hoops to jump through verifying you’re not a bot and almost never has the info you’re looking for anyways.

Plus Discord is a shitty company removing features from paid users (custom tags) and forcing changes to be more like Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Also you can't just look at a discord server for the one piece of info you need. You need to find the invite link and join the actual server, go react to some admin post to get access to the main channels, then wait 30 minutes to be granted rights to post a message on the server, then go mute the server because you obviously don't give a shit about the hourly @everyone messages going out. Imagine having to join a subreddit every time you wanted to see it, then having to unsub so that it doesn't show on your front page.

It's a terrible reddit alternative.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Along with only having 100 slots available for non-Nitro users. Even with Nitro it's 200. Between social spaces and games I play (some with several servers just for different classes), I don't have much space left for random topics. I'm clearly a heavy Discord user, but it is not the place for forums for all the reasons you listed too.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's /r/malefashionadvice.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So nothing has been lost.

If a bunch of 20-somehtigns wish to get advice from another bunch of self-important 20-somethings on what to wear they may as well fuck off to the moon for all I care.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I missed something, but what's wrong with guys talking about fashion for those that are interested in it? I'm not that into it myself, but I don't see why it would illicit this kind of a response?

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's like getting kicked out of the home you grew up with to moving in permanently at a hotel, instead of getting your own home...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep that’s me… my name is Earl.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's like you and your friends getting kicked out of a restaurant and then deciding to hang out at a shoe store instead of just finding a different restaurant...

Discord is nothing like reddit/lemmy/kbin.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What the fuck is wrong with those people and their fetish with Discord? It's not a forum, it's a fucking chat platform where you have to pay for fucking emojis!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

From one centralised platform to another. Feels like poeple don't learn.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Discord is a black hole of information. Unindexable, unscrapable, borderline unsearchable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It also sucks you in and spaghettifis you.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

In my language spaghettifis would literally mean "spaghetti fart".

More news at 11.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is how social media sites die. Not with big protests, but people and communities quietly moving away. Reddit won’t die at once in an explosion; it will be a slow, quiet process. Same with Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly.

The protest wasn't supposed to be about causing problems, it was supposed to be about making a point. That's what people who opposed the protests never understood. Including Reddit.

They kept saying "oh it'll calm down and then everyone will come back to the site", well, it did calm down, but only because people decided they couldn't be bothered with them anymore. Since there were always other options, people went there. (God only knows why that didn't occur to the likes of Spez)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

'We started as a unique service and people flocked towards us when digg died. It won't happen again, as there is no alternative.'

He only forgot that when there is no alternative that is exactly what a company offers, people will either crate one or find something else that's either good enough or even better. Companies don't die because they do stupid things, they die because the users/customers are fed up with them. Just look at the banks, where people withdraw their cash and leave, digg that caused an exodus to reddit, Reddit exodus to kbin/lemmy and now even Discord.

When I look at R/CSRRacing2, the main contributer went almost silent after half june, the place to be now is one of the 2 discord servers. (even though I created [email protected] , which is totally quiet) The DIscord servers for that game totally embraced the forum function for the event info, but chat is used for the immediate questions. Biggest advantage, getting the same question over and ver isn't to bad, as they scroll out of the window fast enough. ;)

To loosely quote Jean Rasczak: "You're it, until you're dead or I find someone better."

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Discord even with forums category is not meant for discover new content and search.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Discord, really?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

F discord. cancer of the internet. it is even worse than everything facebook or whatever. also gatekeeping content behind a software of a very shady company + forcing phone number for registration are just so many "no go"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I mean, I think Discord itself is fine

I think how people are using discord as an info source is a huge issue.

It's a good form of Chat messenger, something you wouldn't want to index (99.9% of it would be spam)

But pretty much in 10-20 years we'll probably have a ton of communities have complete breakdowns because they stored all their information somewhere that doesn't let them take it with them when they leave.

Basically I think Discord is just going past what it was designed to do.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think discord is the way forward. Lemmy on web is awesome but the app on mobile needs a lot of work to be remotely good.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I go to Discord for very different reasons than to Lemmy/Reddit. Lemmy allows any arbitrary number of parallel dicussions on specific topics, the same cannot be said for what's essentially a bundle of chat rooms.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not a user of that sub, but I can't wait for crazy, anime avatar weirdos to start dunking on people, every disco server has em lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

They went to substack for their wiki/guides content and discord for everything else. Different. Maybe it'll fit their social model better than a forum kind of place. I prefer my local mechanical keyboard discord over the much bigger subreddit.

Good to see that r/accidentalRenaissance is moving to kbin/lemmy. Also seems like a good fit for them here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Someone tell these hot boys about lemmy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Trading one master for another, I see.

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