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Same thing in CIT test menu:

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I mean, this one is on me. I bought Poco X3 Pro knowing damn well it's plagued with issues. But €188 for phone with Snapdragon 860, 120Hz screen, big battery, stereo speakers, headphone jack and IR blaster 1 and a half years ago? Hell, that sounds too good.

And yes, before you ask, I have tried turning it off an on. Also resetting both from settings and recovery.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I once had an Asus Android tablet. Absolutely loved that thing, until it needed to go in for warranty repair. Asus, for me, remains the absolute worst company to deal with for warranties.

Not only did they NOT fix any problems, but it would come back with more issues than when I sent it in. At one point, they didn't even bother to snap the screen in place, so I could see into the tablet (you aren't supposed to!).

They screwed me around over and over until the warranty period expired, then they ghosted me. Unbelievably bad service.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Last Asus laptop I sent off for warranty screen replacement came back with a lower resolution screen off a lower end version of the same model. By the time they returned it the warranty expired and they wouldn't fix their fuck up. I'll never spend money on their products again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

By the time they returned it the warranty expired and they wouldn’t fix their fuck up.

Sounds like this "strategy" is basically their business plan. What an awful company.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's not even legal if you didn't explicitly agree to it in advance after being informed of the difference

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If that happened in Europe, that's illegal. The warranty period is suspended while your product is away for warranty repairs. Little side note, that only applies to the legal 2 year warranty protection, which is between the buyer and the seller (which is often not the manufacturer).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had the second gen nexus 7 that seemed to pick up what was a common issue with the power button (something essentially came unglued or something inside and it'd stop working). I sent it off for repair and they wouldn't fix it because it was 'water damaged' (it wasn't) and they wanted something ridiculous like £75 for basically popping off the back cover and stopping all work.

Robbing bastards Asus will never get another penny out of me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Just a heads-up, even just higher humidity can activate the water damage indicators.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Same for me but it was Samsung. Will never in my life i'll buy a Samsung product.

[–] possiblylinux127 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go back to the store and tell them the issue.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course I'll do that, it's just too late for today, tomorrow it is.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Looks like they didn't connect camera back when they were pouring it back together.

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, I just wanted to verify.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I recently took my Pixel 6a in for screen repair; somehow, water got under the glass and caused the whole thing to glitch out in a way that looked like I spilled black ink all over. Really bizarre. Anyway, I picked up the phone and visually inspected it - all was good, so I took it home. They said they tested it, I took their word for it.

Turns out they destroyed the NFC antenna, disabling Google Pay for me. It took me almost and month and several emails to corporate, but they ended up fixing their mistake.

Point is, this very well may be the fault of the repair people. I'd reach out to them first.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a repair tech, this can happen really easily. There are sometimes like 2 dozen cables that need to be disconnected and perfectly reconnected for every function to work. Additionally if they don't have a proper testing software it's fairly labour intensive to test and it can eat deeply in your margins. Some cheap businesses won't bother testing beyond turning it on and just letting the customer figure it out and deal with it then.

For example at my work we barely test sub 100$ computers. The amount of time to , refurbish, wipe the drive, put it into stock, keep track of it in accounting and shipping it already makes it barely profitable, having to throw in another and hour to half an hour of additional testing can easily make the computer a loss for the company assuming it sells at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely understand; I used to be a repair tech for Sprint. That said, screen repair for the Pixel 6a doesn't even require the back to be removed, so I think it was more an education issue than anything else. I don't think it was malicious at all, but shortly after I noticed the NFC issues, the back fell off and I saw they'd cracked it pretty severely and stuck it back on with double-stick tape. It was less the crime and more the cover-up that pissed me off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see. I recently had to repair an iPhone 13 with super bent frame and back glass. Apple wouldn't touch it because of the damage but the phone was still alive. Once I got it back together the wifi didn't work and unfortunately we couldn't really do anything about it even if it was looking new

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry for asking, if you don't mind, but do you have any tips on opening and gluing back these devices? I have a 6 year old Moto G5s Plus with 1 hour battery life (surprisingly, not bloated) and I'd like to try replacing that. The USB port also needs replacement, but that seems impossible. It's soldered on and surrounded by multiple tiny SMD components.

I've seen someone on Reddit mention that they recommend waiting a bit before putting on the screen when using the B7000 glue, otherwise it will seep under the screen and you'll probably never remove it without screen damage.
I may pay additional €9 for the OEM adhesive instead, but I'll still need to use glue for fingerprint scanner, which unfortunately needs to be removed due to how the phone is constructed.

Also, how do I know I am not heating it up too much?

Thanks for any answer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The glue will depend on the internal bezels, sometimes they are wide enough for us to use some specialized (very strong) 1mm double sided tape but other times they are ridiculously tiny and almost impossible to glue well. In the latter situation most would tell you to buy the OEM adhesive but frankly it's not any better.

If you do go with the tape method heat the phone up after assembly and press on it firmly. The heat softens the glue up and when you press down on it, it'll "flow" into all the gaps, providing stronger adhesion.

I find that a phone is too cold if I could hold it indefinitely (without my hands burning) and too hot if your hand immediately starts burning. Usually I aim to get it hot enough to comfortably hold for a few seconds while I get it apart. If you want exact numbers the temperature I use on my heating pad is 70c.

To glue the fingerprint sensor (and many other small parts) I use liquid super glue . Sure some technicians may not approve of it but it has some very useful properties for small parts. It is strong and unlikely for fail in normal use, it is very easy to apply and easy to cure and its still weak and brittle enough that you can still remove the component later.

Put a drop of super glue on a piece of plastic (to discard later) and use a toothpick to apply a tiny amount. Look closely to see if the liquid has wetted all mating surfaces and let it cure.

To repair the chargeport you will likely need to go to a more specialized repair shop to solder it. SMD components should not be handled by beginners and it takes a lot of time to get good at it (professionally we use microscopes, precision soldering irons and hot air rework stations for them).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it was a motherboard replacement, it's entirely possible they missed connecting the cable for the camera entirely or just didn't get it fully connected and is loose.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's possible (the partially connected bit) since I previously got an image from it. Kinda. The camera app still didn't work, but CIT test menu gave me image with only small hint of color.

Edit: On the other hand, all 5 cameras don't work, which is suspicious. Maybe some calibration?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Aren't they all connected via one Lego ribbon cable?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I checked. In this phone they're separately connected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thumbs up for that.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The shitty thing is that the process to flash the firmware literally takes like 2m, if that. And the machine is right there.

So now getting support again. Sending it back. Hoping the next guy knows what they are doing. Misery fuel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your back button appears to be in the wrong place too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Excuse me? That's the right place :P

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok wise guy, tell me this, who's on first?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really preferred it on the right, too. It was the default on my Galaxy. But I have a Pixel for work and it doesn't seem to let you choose which side the back button is on. I can't stand to have an inconsistency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah from memory it was the default for Samsung, but stock Android had it the other way around. I've always preferred it, much easier to reach with my thumb while holding it in my right hand. I always swap it (custom firmware ensures this) and also have it set so a long press of the back button will force close any foreground app.

If you've got a Pixel phone I would look at installing GrapheneOS on it. Even if it's a work phone, chances are they won't know. If they find out, say you were ensuring the security of your device, for the benefit of both you and your employer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Default setup. Just to demonstrate camera problem.
It can be switched in settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Neanderthal take

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The camera module might have gotten detached, but of course we can't be sure with just what you showed here.

Not asked, but honestly I've owned a Poco X3 NFC for 3 years now and I had to send it recently to repair due to a shorted fingerprint sensor. But until then I had no issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As far as I know, the Pro variant has issues with overheating. So much so, the SoC can cook itself.