this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
1865 points (98.2% liked)

pics

19665 readers
1004 users here now

Rules:

1.. Please mark original photos with [OC] in the title if you're the photographer

2..Pictures containing a politician from any country or planet are prohibited, this is a community voted on rule.

3.. Image must be a photograph, no AI or digital art.

4.. No NSFW/Cosplay/Spam/Trolling images.

5.. Be civil. No racism or bigotry.

Photo of the Week Rule(s):

1.. On Fridays, the most upvoted original, marked [OC], photo posted between Friday and Thursday will be the next week's banner and featured photo.

2.. The weekly photos will be saved for an end of the year run off.

Weeks 2023

Instance-wide rules always apply. https://mastodon.world/about

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 174 points 1 year ago (15 children)
[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago

11 miles ~ 18km

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flashback to the old days (1 month ago)

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (13 replies)
[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I didn’t realize imax was still film. I figured it went digital with everything else.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There’s only a handful of IMAX theatres in the world that can play this format. Most of them are digital.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Our local one did, but I guess not all. It's a shame, you used to be able to watch the film being wound through windows

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That will fit nicely in my 32gb micro sdxc the size of a fingernail.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True but you won’t lose the film roll that easy

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Actually it won't. A movie on a 4k blu ray is around 80gb without additional compression. And Oppenheimer is shot on 70mm which is more like 8k resolution. Still would fit on a micro SD of course

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's way bigger than that. Usually cinemas receive movies in multiple terabyte hard drives. Thats because they are using JPEG2000 standard (it varies, but it is close to lossless) and a movie can take up anywhere from 500GB to 2TB (highly dependent on resolution, it can go above 2TB). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_2000?wprov=sfla1

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Some things to keep in mind about the theater experience.

  • Only a handful of theaters do film IMAX anymore. A lot of IMAX locations are just 4k DCP (Digital Cinema Package)
  • Most theaters in the world are digital projectors with a max resolution of 1998x1080 or 2048x858

Part of the reason these factors still exist is cost. A poorly maintained film projector with a lousy film print can ruin a movie going experience. Hollywood would sometimes release so very shitty prints. The digital projectors are much easier to maintain so the experience is often more ideal for the average movie goer.

Having said that, if a theater takes good care of their film projectors and they have a well made and well kept print, the experience can be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

If you can see the film print in the opening week. Christopher Nolan makes his movies in an analog way. So it is a film process all the way though except for VFX. This is one of the only opportunities to see film that was not digitally modified. Only one place in the world can make these imax 70mm film prints and they are all basically hand made. EDIT: link changed to piped link. https://piped.video/watch?v=xa1xJIgLzFk

2k digital projection is typically used in smaller theaters where the screen size is not large enough for anyone to actually see a difference.

load more comments (11 replies)
load more comments (22 replies)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (14 children)

This obsession with the length and weight of the film is such a bizarre marketing strategy.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we all know girth is what matters.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Big and heavy means quality, don't you know?

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (12 replies)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

16k, it's iMAX, which is about as good as it gets.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I'm sure I'm wrong, but it's hard to imagine this being better quality than what we can do digitally these days.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (10 children)

You are in fact wrong lol. Actual film has a resolution equivalent of something like 18K.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Wasn't normal 35mm film about the equivalent of somewhere between 4k and 8k depending on the film stock?

Plus, the projector optics will always limit the sharpness of the picture. No lense is ideal, and even ideal lenses would have fundamental limitations due to diffraction.

load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Resolution and color reproduction is still unmatched. Plus there are a lot of things happening in the analog domain that our eyes notice as beautiful.

Same thing is true for analog vs digital music production btw

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I can't speak for video, but for audio production that isn't true. Audio signals can be perfectly reproduced, up to some frequency determined by the sample rate and up to some noise floor determined by the bit depth, digitally. Set that frequency well beyond that of human hearings and set that noise floor beyond what tape can do or what other factors determine, and you get perfect reproduction.

See here. https://youtu.be/UqiBJbREUgU

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, but they're likely digitally editing it all now, so it loses that in the middle of the process. Can't really see why it would make sense to print a digital file back onto film

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (16 replies)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assumed even an IMAX film would be digital now.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imax film is some of the highest resolution formats we have it's like 16k resolution, and using that for a projector gets ya some really good quality.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (17 children)

This is insane. I want to go watch this in IMAX so badly, but there are no IMAX theaters anywhere near me. Maybe one day I'll get a chance. Do they ever reshow older IMAX movies? Like, I would kill to go back and see Interstellar or Dark Knight.

load more comments (17 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I pay to see a movie in an IMAX theater, this is the film being loaded? Is this normal for IMAX?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No. This is called “15/70 Imax”. There are very very few theaters that have this. The “Imax” you’ll find at the local mall is totally different.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Check out this list. The imax 70mm ones would be reels like this one.

https://www.in70mm.com/news/2023/oppenheimer_cinema/index.htm

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Going to see Oppenheimer in imax soon and this post got me researching about imax and fake imax and now im a little disappointed that the imwx theater im going to is just digital imax (fake imax). Oh well :/

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: Watching it on my phone Nolan: 🫨

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All of this could fit on a micro SD card.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Probably not. 3 hours of uncompressed 1080p video is around 2tb. The film is closer to 16k which is 64 times more pixels than 1080p. This ain't your web rip off pirate bay.

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There are productions that still use film?

EDIT: Missed the iMAX part.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Many. And this isn't even the footage, this is the print for the cinema.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A surprising number of films are still shot on film and then transfered to a digital intermediate for editing and later distribution. Not only the few film imax ones. I wonder if anyone is still doing their editing on film, I highly doubt it.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I read quite a few comments, admittedly not all. But I haven't seen this asked.

How is this 600 pounder handled? Forklift? Hoist? WTH?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Smaller reels that are spliced together as they're fed on the feed platter you see. My dad was a a projectionist, he'd make these up when a film arrived then break it down to ship it. I'd go on and help him as a kid.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Go watch the movie. A lot of people worked very hard on it. But still, remember to show your support to the strike.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Holy shit balls.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I'm so stoked for this. Just got done listening through The Last Podcast on the Left's series on the Manhattan project too

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to be a projectionist at an art house theater. We just did 16 mm prints. Just imagining this going wrong due to some threading issue and the film going everywhere is giving me anxiety.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›