this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2023
90 points (95.9% liked)

Fuck Cars

9602 readers
1060 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Electric cars are crucial, but not enough to solve climate change. We can’t let them crowd out car-free transit options.

top 13 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cars have become too much of a symbol of clout for many societies. I just wish humanity could get its shit together.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Broke: I need a car to prove I'm not poor.

Woke: Cars are the very things keeping us poor.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Woke to the future: cruising in style in my multi million-dollar driverless pod

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it really something that inpresses other people? I feel cars only impress their owners and they hope other people are as impressed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Cars are seen as a status symbols in a lot of places, instead of as the utilitarian things they are. Where I'm from people will see you in a better or worse light depending on what you drive, for sure. Most young people get first in debt not for college, but for the 200.000km second or third hand car imported from Germany.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a far too simple take. Everyone (yes, also you) have biases around cars. And depending on the bias, people want to have these character traits associated with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is exactly, what I mean. It's not so much about impressing other people and more about impressing themselves. They want a big car, because they think, it makes them big. Even people who care about cars don't see every car and think how cool the owner must be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Understood, yes. 🤔

What I wanted to point out is that these people are not too wrong in their assumptions. It is, indeed, impressive to society.

Example, if you look at a shiny new(ish) Mercedes, that's well cleaned, and in perfect shape. What's the first things you attribute to that driver? At least "wealthy/successful to some extent", right? And that's a trait that is impressive in a lot of (capitalist) societies nowadays.

It's not about whether this is a good or bad thing. It's just something that we need to acknowledge and understand when fighting car centricity. We can't just deny the existence of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, it appears to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gesticulate wildly in every direction

There are so many things humanity needs to get it's shit together on

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago