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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'll take a go at it. I am a woman. Don't automatically assume whoever you are responding to is male. Also, if we are specifically talking about women, then let's not forget that cis women, specifically, exist and don't have to do all the heavy lifting for every other non-cishet-male. Sometimes on R****t I felt that cis women were stifled in that regard. I will be very, very curious to see how this comment gets voted on and engaged with...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what do you mean cis women exist and dont have to do heavy lifting for other non cishet male and how does that apply to making Lemmy a safer and more inclusive place for women?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Regarding erasure, in an effort to make language more inclusive, women's identity is often erased. "Pregnant people" removes women (the vast majority of people who are pregnant are cis women). Other language like that. So use language that actually does acknowledge women and doesn't contribute to their erasure. "Pregnant women and people" perhaps, for example. When all you are usually dealing with is text on a screen, language matters.

Re: the other point, it's less Lemmy-specific. Cis men need to step up and do the work for inclusion as well. It seems there is a default expectation that of course women should be leading the charge since they're already a "minority" group. It's tiring.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you get this talking point from Ana Kasparian? She recently made arguments like this, but they were a lot less reasonable. "Pregnant women and people" sounds like an easy compromise to me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I did not, I don't know who that person is actually. Thank you for thinking that it is a reasonable compromise.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ah youre a terf. i dont care about your opinion then.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Not sure how advocating for cis women makes me a terf. I don't exclude trans people, I simply want feminism to work for cis women as well.