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[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Just wanted to mention that Firefox and Mull for Android allow you to do that. They are also much better than Chrome or any Chromium based browser, as they allow proper adblockers and they don't support Google's monopoly on the browser rendering engines which is just bad for the open internet in general. Mull also significantly improves your privacy by using many patches from the Tor Browser.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The only downside to using Firefox on Android is that Google search results can take forever to load unless you clear site cookies. And Google Image search is awful.

However that's all fixed if you use Duck Duck Go instead.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

You shouldn't use Google anyway. Honestly, fuck Google and their surveillance ecosystem. If you want Google search results, try Startpage, it's a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it's essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo's results are totally fine, I'm able to find anything I need.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

+1 for duckduckgo. Google is mostly ads nowadays

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Ads and tracking. And censorship.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i believe that's all fixed if you install the Google Search Fixer, or at least ive never had problems using google search on firefox android after installing that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I believe that it's also fixed by just using DuckDuckGo. Fuck Google, if you want Google search results, try Startpage, it’s a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it’s essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo’s results are totally fine, I’m able to find anything I need.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Or Kagi. I couldn't do DDG but Kagi was good enough for me to finally switch off of Google.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

or use bing, I've switched to bing recently and it's be come an overall. more enjoyable experience. Of course, using something like Duck Duck go instead of using a big company alternative is better in any case.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Fennec is just Firefox Nightly without the Firefox branding. Mull is superior as it uses patches from the Tor Browser and settings from Arkenfox user.js, it greatly improves your privacy.

[–] AI_toothbrush 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow how horrible... continues to use firefox

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Why would Google code for its opponent's OS first? Not that I use Chrome, anyway. Firefox has had that feature for ages.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Google constantly does this. Never makes any sense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Does it matter? The iOS app and Android app are almost certainly made by two different teams that operate independently.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The reason is probably really mundane, like the iOS Chrome team and Android Chrome team not working in lockstep or something of the sort. Like the iOS team planned it for 2023 Q4 and the Android team for 2024 Q1

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Probably because safari has it that way by default.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The technology just isn't there yet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It used to be able to do it via an experimental feature, then they took that feature away. https://www.dignited.com/114084/how-to-relocate-the-chrome-address-bar-on-your-android-device/

It smacks of some VP of product development hating on the concept, despite it being optional, and wont back down over the decision. Most likely they used the navigation buttons on the bottom and this caused their great big sausage fingers a problem.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Somehow Chromium based Vivaldi pulled it off.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Swore there was a flag that allowed you to do this years ago.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Google removing features, and bringing them back pretending they are new. A tale as old as time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Apple kinda does the same thing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Chromium Forks like Cromite and Brave have this feature already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Fuck Chromium. Don't support Google's monopoly on web rendering engines and use Firefox or Mull for Android as well as LibreWolf on desktop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I use both. Firefox for most of my work and Chromium for sites that usually don't work well on FF.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Vivaldi also.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been using cromite for months! how did I not know about this??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

how did I not know about this??

The first thing I do whenever I install anything is to go through the settings. To turn off trackers, analytics and explore the accessibility features.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Being at the bottom makes more sense on today's larger phones. I'm just so used to it being at the top it's hard to get used to it being at the bottom of the screen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

It never made sense to me, UX wise, to be up on handheld devices (one handed ones especially).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Omg, why not for Android too? It's way easier to reach bottom than the top.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

It actually exists in the codebase, but is disabled. 'The feature is not yet available for Android but was previously tested on the platform.'

Cromite browser let's you do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Use Firefox. And also switch away from Google as your search engine. DuckDuckGo is great but if you want Google search results, try Startpage, it’s a meta search engine for Google. Whoogle is also an option, it’s essentially a proxy for Google searches. But for me, DuckDuckGo’s results are totally fine, I’m able to find anything I need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Thank you for letting me know about Startpage!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

lol, if chrome isn't going to allow it on android then what's the point? Safari offers it (if it's the only feature you care about), and is a lot better then chrome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My old windows phone did this and I loved it. I'm surprised its taking Google this long to do this. Not that I use chrome but still

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Firefox on Android has had this for quite a long time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

funny enough.. it was a feature flag to move it to the bottom on android for a while before but they removed that too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
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