this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2023
96 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

37519 readers
134 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 20 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

pot calling the kettle black are we

(I just googled this phrase since to be honest I didn't know its origins and I really prefer the 1639 version "Pot calling the pan burnt-arsed" now)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

“Pot calling the pan burnt-arsed”

Now the phrase makes a lot more sense

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Pot calling the pan burnt-arsed

Thank you for this!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

We have a phrase in Romanian: shard laughing at the broken pot

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Slides from 20 years ago.

This is news, yes, especially considering that Apple made a deal with the devil considering its new self-reported bloom as privacy focused.

But news headlines are acting like Apple just said this today, and that is complete headline bait.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

10 years ago, I dont think android was released on 2003.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yet Apple gladly takes billions from Google so that they remain the default search engine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Yes it's all business.

Partnership team finds the biggest bidder for the default search.

Marketing teams find the best argument against their biggest competitor.

At no point anyone is pondering if Google is "good" or "bad" because companies typically don't care.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Says Apple lol

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I guess what that slide meant was not what the author thought.

Well, yes, Android is a "massive tracking device", but Google Search is not the culprit. Android apps were able to collect user data easily because they didn't have to ask for users' permission (and even today, by using an old Android API iirc).

So, no, I don't trust Apple, but that slide is probably irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

and even today, by using an old Android API iirc

Nope, the required API to have your app in the Playstore constantly rises, and if you don't comply you get kicked. The current API version is something around 26, and definitely has the permissions model integrated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but you can distribute your app outside and the official store then

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

They're also adding an API version check on devices, which will affect old apps that have gotten around the store checks. Only affects devices that can upgrade to 14, but it's a solid step.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

eh, anything Apple says about direct competition is a lie. every time

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, in this case, it is a lie of omission. It is true that Android devices are massive trackers. But, so are Apple devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Depends which Android devices. I don't have any unlatched Google apps in my phone

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

True. Me too. The fact that you can degoogle some Android phones while you cannot de-apple iphones makes the lie of omission particularly vicious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

At least we know about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Will, they would, wouldn't they. Tossers.