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Tesla is failing to play by Swedish labor rules, unions claim. Now a strike that started with mechanics is beginning to spread.

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[-] [email protected] 104 points 8 months ago

Come to Europe and fuck with unions, great idea, Musk.

His dumb ass will escalate and get in trouble with IG Metall, I can already see it...

[-] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

Would be a huge blunder. Europe has one of the highest rates of EV uptake last time I checked

[-] stoy 41 points 8 months ago

Eh, Elon is so deluded by arrogance that he might do it out of spite

[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Yet he bends over backwards for papa Xi

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Sweden doesn’t have a hard man authoritarian in charge to project daddy issues onto.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am afraid that he already bought some politicians. Did you see how he was welcomed by French government?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

That's the nice thing about unions, they don't care what politicians say ;)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But politicians can cripple unions as Union (German Christian Party=> Conservatives)and SPD (German Social Democrats) did with the Tarifeinheitsgesetz when the Union of Train Drivers did run a too successful strike for their taste Edit: Clarified that Union and SPD are referring to German political parties

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That doesn't affect most workers in unions, and can also be protested... by striking.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

How? I thought political strikes are not legal?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

In Denmark if a political decision is taken that is against the union, the union can start a counter strike against them. Have happened before and it set the country on breake.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Well unfortunately it's not so easy in Germany. Good for you to have better labour laws

[-] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I know that but the gouvernement could passes law and unions couldn't do nothing about it (that's what happen when a gouvernement uses force instead of dialogue). In the recent years the French gouvernement passed many laws that weakened employees rights. Do you know that if you go into court against your employer and you win, you will just get few hundred euros? It won't ever cover for lawyer expenses. That's because a law was to max the amount you can and it is very low.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Normally the Union gives you a lawyer for employment related disputes

[-] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yes I know but the French gouvernement passed many laws not in favor of employees. There were strikes for months but the gouvernement didn't listen and police was beating people.

Now an employer can fire you because of race / sexual orientation... Etc. You can win if you went into trial but the employer may pay just few hundreds euros because there is a limit that caps how much the employer will pay.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Unions couldn't do anything about it? Sure... 🙄

[-] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago

Gods please do. This company shouldn’t be allowed to operate here.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

If you look at Musks companies morality track record, probably none of them should be

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Just checked the Wikipedia article of Tesla, and immediately went to the controversies chapter. Oh, boy have they been busy filling up this section. I’ve seen many controversy chapters, but this is just impressive. Many of the main points also have a dedicated article of their own.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

Good, they’re trash.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Can only get worse for Tesla from this point forward.

The unions will break them.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Swede here. Last time this happened was last year when the dock workers blocked the unloading off Russian ships. This proved to be illegal according Swedish labour law (reading strikes and blockades).

This is a slightly different situation since they are in fact having a "sympathy strike" which essentially is them supporting another union's fight. The right is for the employer to sign an collective agreement. Since the are no minimum wage and other minimums in Swedish labour law such an agreement is a cornerstone for employers and employees in Sweden.

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