Reddit Migration
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We should recommend people sign up on some of the various kbin instances, listed here: https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list
My instance only currently has 8 registered users so I know I can take on some more people to help spread the load. People don’t need to sign up for mine specifically though, we just don’t wanna overload kbin.social
thanks for the list of the kbin instances! Hopefully we can migrate our accounts someday. Joining kbin.social at first has been helpful to me to not have to go through that growing pain of not being able to see many communities/magazines
Yeah no problem! I think that’s the link we should be passing around to people instead of flooding kbin.social (if we can). I’ve tried to populate my instance with all the top popular communities from other instances (including Lemmy) because I know that lack of content is a turn off for instances other than the “main” ones.
I think there needs to be an easier way to see communities/magazines across aggregators because I see the lemmy browse sites for communities won't show any kbin magazines, which I think will only hurt the point of decentralizing but being able to access all the content in the fediverse.
I'm not sure if kbin actually suffers the same way, because I'm on kbin.social which I'm guessing just already has all the current lemmy communities added. But if there's a new lemmy community, and no one added it to kbin.social (how would they find out?) then no one will find out if this lemmy community blows up and becomes really popular right?
How's resource usage? I hear kbin is heavy on RAM
On average, it looks to be less than 2gb of ram at the moment. CPU and RAM usage obviously will go up as I have more users, but it’s not bad at all at the moment. I’ve been pleasantly surprised tbh. I am also completely prepared to scale the server up if I get more users on my instance.
Edit: just a follow up, looks like I can scale my instance to a maximum two ways,
“cpu optimized” up to 48 vCPU and 96gb of ram
“Memory optimized” up to 32 vCPU and 256gb of ram
I’m a long way off of the max though now, my server is only 2 vCPU and 4gb memory for now
okay the only thing is, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep making instance names that don't start with kbin.___ because then if kbin/lemmy really do take off, it would be so hard to google search for them. You can't do the site:kbin.* search if those instances with different names make magazines/communities and you can't find them with that google filter
I will be thrilled if we end up with some experienced Reddit mods running communities or instances of their own.
I would welcome them to mod my community with open arms ! I hope we see some of them come over
Instance based communities sound really interesting until it comes to the matter of an instance needing to be shut down. I hope the portability factor of Lemmy gets better, because that's an easy way to lose tons of valuable informarion.
It will be an interesting time for sure. I hope it can work out in a way that skilled moderators can be compensated for their efforts. It seems like donation-supported instances for niche communities isn't too unrealistic right now, though that doesn't solve the volunteer labor problem. Cleverer things will probably become possible as the technology improves.
Served 13 years in Reddit Penetentiary, just joined here, hello
We beleive in second chance here so welcome !
Yeah, the question though is if you believe yourself to be rehabilitated and ready to enter civil society
Arrrrrr, there needs be some rock breaking
You mod 16 subs, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t take me cause I can’t go; I owe my soul to the IPO
I feel like federation let's this basically be what many want reddit to be, a platform by the userbase, for the userbase.
Exactly. Capitalist platforms will all suffer from enshitification. They will eventually have to make money, and users are products. Their shareholders will eventually force the platforms to extract money from their users.
Awesome, more users is good!
Kbin is so nice and seems more stable than lemmy. I spent all of yesterday on a lemmy account with a lot of loading errors and all of today on kbin and not a single error! Well done to the devs.
You’ll get a couple but they’re usually super temporary 503s so it just feels like the Reddit of yore
That's excellent to hear! I've been following the progress of KBin closely. The big thing I'm waiting for is mobile apps
On the plus side, kbin now has a PWA, and it works pretty well.
@[email protected] is working on a client that is (currently) called Kmoon.
It might be renamed soon, but I've signed up for the beta and am currently waiting for an Android build 👀
Took them a million years, but finally. Many of them weren't quite happy with the idea of migrating to platforms where they aren't the main moderators anymore.
Though (well, I'm biased) I'd say recommending Lemmy over Kbin at the moment would be better, given the number of fully working instances
Lots of people take issue with the political leanings of the Lemmy developers which may be why it's lower on the list, although I agree that it is more established.
In any case, that's the beauty of the fediverse. Create an account on both, or choose just one and cross-subscribe to communities you like.
It'll be interesting to see if this changes the playing field for social networks in any significant way.
Woah. Get those lifeboats filled.
Excellent news!
Really happy about this, hope it truly happens. Finally a social in the true meaning of the word.
I'd say this is for the best of us.
Even the existing moderators have started to acknowledge that Reddit is no longer a platform for the people, and it was just a way for Spez to make money all along, even saying that the years of content can be marketed and sold.
First on the list. Sweet.
I find it to be a way better solution than Lemmy for various reasons.
Inb4 +500badillion new users
I know it's not strictly relevant but god damn it what is it with people refusing to use the shift key?
The admin over at Beehaw does this too. It legitimately makes it hard to take them seriously.
Yeah, I know, who cares, right?
It's not about caring how people get lazy with their writing, I do it plenty. It's about, if you're going to make a public statement, maybe capitalize your sentences so they look professional? There are countless, simple ways to do it automatically on desktop.
Honestly, the activity on reddit still seems lower than before the Blackout if you look here, especially for a weekend
Text of the post, for those who prefer not to give the traffic:
Greetings all,
We've started the protest this Monday, in solidarity with numerous people who need access to the API, including bot developers, people with accessibility needs (r/blind) and 3rd party app users (Apollo, Sync, and many more). r/humor in particular has made a great post regarding protesting in support of the blind people.
Despite numerous past policies and statements, in support of the mods' right to protest, we have witnessed many attempts this weeks to force subreddits to open (examples: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).
In light of this, we recommend to all those supporting this cause that you take the following steps:
review other softer forms of protest (some of them mentioned here);
take appropriate measures to consult with your community;
decide on a course of action, that complies with the ever more draconian admin policies, but still helps send the message that reddit needs to do better on the list of our community demands.
Here is a short list of actions that many subs are already engaging in:
private days (example - Touch Grass Tuesdays, or on the weekends);
restricting the topic of the forum (example: restricting to just pictures or gifs of one personality );
narrowing the topic of your forum (see the example of r/Wellthatsucks;
widening the topic of your forum (see the example of r/interestingasfuck);
marking the subreddit temporarily NSFW or switching to allowing NSFW content. Changing this setting should not be taken lightly (it would be against the TOS); however, if content in your sub happens to also include "nudity, pornography, or profanity", please take appropriate steps to warn users, including temporarily marking your community as NSFW. This has the undesirable effect of reducing your community's reach and visibility but, per the Moderator Code of Conduct, it is our duty as moderators to ensure the safety of those viewing our content and provide appropriate warning to anyone who may incidentally view any mature content (see the example of r/Toyota)
linkedin campaign - commenting on the linkedin posts of reddit with info about this protest (demands, and how reddit admins punished protesting mods);
inform reddit advertisers of the current issues;
modifying image posts requirements (all image posts must include an album, and the first picture must be protest-related);
prepare moving the forum to another platform:
https://kbin.social/
https://join-lemmy.org/
https://squabbles.io/
https://tildes.net/;
promote reddit alternatives in the sidebar;
content as usual in an open sub, but the title includes protest language;
remove all sub rules and let the community curate content through up-/downvotes;
open sub and pin anti-staff message (list of unfulfilled promises, terrible decisions), and add to sidebar;
automod sticky on every thread promoting Reddit alternatives;
have automod make scheduled posts about the protest;
increase the age and karma posting requirements through automod;
turn off discovery settings, and popping up on r/all.
As usual:
do not allow or promote harassment of people or communities;
do not allow illegal content, or content that breaks TOS.
We have to work within the limits imposed by reddit, but there is still plenty of ways to get the message to reddit and mass media about the important issues of the protest, that will affect the quality of content on reddit, how people with disabilities can access the site and how mods can fulfill their duties.
Please post below forms of protest in which you engage, or other suggestions.