OK, I'll bite: What systems reward kindness?
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
890 points (92.4% liked)
Memes
45745 readers
1978 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
For one, hunter-gatherer tribes before the rise of civilisation were most certainly built on kindness and cooperation
Except towards other tribes. Can't have them clear our hunting grounds, now can we?
Check out The Dawn of Everything, puts to rest a lot of the myths about prehistoric societies that we tell ourselves. Early societies were consciously experimenting with different social arrangements and they were far more peaceful and egalitarian than we usually give them credit for. Their ideas on property were vastly different than ours as well. There wasn't really an "our hunting grounds" to speak of. If you're interested I'll leave this video by Andrewism about human history. It's well sourced and pretty informative
Turns out to have warring tribes you need to be organized enough to carry out a war.
Jericho had walls when most of the rest of humanity was nomadic hunter-gatherers.
City walls generally weren't built because people feel safe and secure already.
I think it sort of depends on what time period we're talking about. Jericho and other walled cities came about after a certain point. By then, there certainly were societies that lived off raiding the less nomadic agrarian societies, not very peaceful or egalitarian.
There was plenty for everyone since there were a lot fewer people, plus there were no real territories that people claimed over longer periods at all since we were nomads.
load more comments
(23 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
The Agrarian Revolution really was where humanity started going downhill.
load more comments
(3 replies)
load more comments
(3 replies)
It's not just about systems, It's about conditions. Certain conditions make certain strategies more profitable - see game theory. I think low population density and hard life conditions cam lead to kindness being among the winning strategies.
load more comments
(2 replies)
load more comments
(73 replies)
I'm glad that there is goodness in the world as well!
It might be a bit hidden away, but I encourage y'all to look closer and feel its might! ❤
And go ahead and create some more yourself!
load more comments
(1 replies)
Let the greedy fend off for themselves in the desert and see how far it gets them.
They've always been handed everything, so they lack any useful survival skills, and they would definitely perish in the desert.
So I say it's a great idea.
That's not capitalism, lol. Modern life has left the majority of people without any real survival skills.
load more comments
(25 replies)
Dalepilled
view more: next ›