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    [–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    For me it's installing a new OS every six months for a fun new experience.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I have a USB drive bay. Just swap disks to play around with other distros. It's pretty neat too

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well now I feel silly for not thinking about doing that.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It actually works quite well. Seperate home partition and off you go 😁

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    [–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    LoL my current Gentoo system was installed like 12 years ago and moved on 5 different hardware platforms without a proper reinstall.

    I have said myself to never peek in the /etc directory for any reason! 😅

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I know a little linux, but obviously I'm still learning. I've picked up everything I know on my own, for the most part - internet guides from the linux community tend to be pretty solid, and I know enough to not totally FUBAR my system.

    Is there a listing of standard linux directories and what they're for? Lite /etc, things like that. Because I seem to find bits of different stuff in a variety of directories.

    I've recently moved to linux on my gaming rig, which is my daily driver - that being said, it is mainly for gaming. Anything can surf the web or play videos and shit, for the most part.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Most distros follow the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

    Edit: also, check out this video by Fireship

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Thanks for this. New linux user and this helped me understand a bit better why files go where they go.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    How does your home directory look?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Who cares with storage nowadays? I just use filelight or command line based tools to determine big storage hogs when I need to

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    [–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I thought the point of Linux was not doing this every year like with Windows?

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Realistically you don't have to if you're not constantly tinkering, but if you're changing a lot of low-level stuff without knowing what you're doing, you have the ability to break things. If you don't know how to fix them, then it's easier to just reformat. Basically it's a skill issue lol.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I've broke things often and had to reinstall a lot because I didn't know what I was doing. Still kinda don't know, but do y'all recommend anyways to learn the knowledge?

    Like I could probably read through man pages but I want something that shows how everything builds on each other to fill any gaps I'm missing

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The Arch Linux Wiki is an incredible resource, even if you're running another distro. Most of it is pretty universal (other than specific commands like the package manager), and it explains how everything functions and fits together. If I'm troubleshooting, it's always my first stop.

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Just keep breaking stuff! It means your learning and trying new things, for the most part. Eventually you'll just break stuff less and less or know what to look for when something breaks. On that note do try to struggle with something a little bit before rolling back or reinstalling.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've been running the same installation of Manjaro since 2018, across three different machines. Each time I've upgraded hardware I just pop the SSD out and stick it in the new motherboard. Zero instability or troubles from that. Meanwhile I've done that to my wife's Windows PC and it resulted in going through a whole rigmarole with calling Microsoft because the OS install was suddenly no longer activated.

    Linux didn't even care that I went from AMD to Intel to AMD.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've gone from windows 7 to windows 10 to windows 11 all without a reformat.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You don't have to do this, I manage some machines that haven't been reinstalled for over a decade. It's really just because "it feels cleaner", I guess.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    "like windows"? I've never reinstalled windows in my life.

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I thought we ditched Windows because we were tired of doing that?

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

    I didn't, I just liked Linux more. It allows us to play around more, but also fuck up more....

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Most did, but there's always people like OP 😅

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    [–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Reinstalling is Windows user logic. On Linux your supposed to fix things in place.

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Not reinstalling the OS but instead booting a rescue disk and painstakingly fixing your mistake 😎

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My Windows installation breaks and has to be installed every 9 months on average and its so fun

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Reinstalling Windows hasn’t been fun since Windows 7. The OS already has most drivers and automatically downloads everything else, I miss skimming through pages of drivers to find the correct one.

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

    The beauty of Linux, you can not upgrade, or upgrade, migrate, or reinstall. You can script the install, so it's barebones+custom. Freedom is sweet.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    reinstalling the os because im to lazy to clean the drives

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Then there's me, reinstalling the OS because it's quicker than installing the three months' worth of updates I forgot about.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The main downside to a rolling release distro, with that much drift there's a good chance something will install that conflicts with something else, and nobody can really help because the only real way to replicate your install is to go back in time and do the same thing

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    Unless you are using NixOS

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    NixOS is great, you can even have it automatically reinstall and wipe your garbage with Impermanence lol

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    I actually do that. It forces me to backup the most necessary things and throw away the rest, hence making the OS feel cleaner.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    So am I the only one distro hopping for fun?

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

    Yes and everyone is talking about it

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Reinstalling every 6 months to feel like new was Windows 95, 98, XP, etc

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    I never reinstall and always recover. Even when migrating from notebook to PC I just dd-ed it and fixed fstab. My current system is 5 years old :)

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Why would you reinstall NixOS, like, ever?

    Heck even moving it to another partition isn't really a re-install as it'll happily create the exact 1:1 same system based on nothing but the configuration file, change nothing but the id of the root partition (you'll have to move over /home manually, though).

    And if you mess up your configuration either roll back instantly, or fix it in situ in case you already gc'ed the old stuff. It's practically impossible to get it into a non-booting state without literally ripping out the disk it's installed on (or, well, Windows messing up the bootloader or something). Even if you run unstable on the whole system every single commit on that branch is tested to not break boot and rollback.

    Oh just one thing: Don't skimp on the size of your EFI partition. 100M are definitely borderline when you have both NixOS and Windows booting from it, those kernels and initrds have gotten quite large over the years and you'll need to be able to fit, bare minimum, two of both.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, depending on your definition of reinstall you either reinstall NixOS never or on every boot. There's no in-between.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Remember the windows XP & HDD days when you would reinstall windows every new year so it ran smoother xd

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I didn't reinstall my system for 5 years

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    ~~Sicko~~ Uᴘᴛɪᴍᴇ Wᴀʀʀɪᴏʀ

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    Nixos is amazing just saying

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    stares at Debian Bookworm VPS that's been upgraded in-place and hasn't been reformatted since Debian Etch (2007)

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