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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Moments like this I wish I had gone with Huawei instead of HONOR. I made the choice initially because HONOR is a state owned company, and the thought of potential SWRC or something like that being practiced seemed cool. But on the other hand I really want to promote HarmonyOS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is that an Android fork or something new developed from scratch?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

As I recall it's forked from Android originally, but they've diverged quite a bit at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why reinvent the Weel Android has the potential to be the most Secure OS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

compared to iOS, sure, but hardly the most secure of all operating systems

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is because it isolates apps and stops apps from using permissions it isnt allowed to use. In windows mac and linux programs just have access to all the user has access to which is very insecure. + on phones programs are most of the time installed by an appstore, so no installing viruses by beeing a idiot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The permission system on Android (at least any version of Android I've seen) is far from exhaustive. On Linux, FreeBSD, etc., you can set fine-grained restrictions (including network access) if you know what you're doing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thats a big if. But on linux you cant by default on most distros isolate programs like you can on android.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if "by default" you mean without installing any additional software, no (unless you're willing to configure the firewall), but last time I checked you can't restrict network access on most Android devices by default either

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In a user frendly manner would be a better wording. But the bigger thing is the sandboxing android does. That doesnt exist on desktop OSs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

there are many options for sandboxing on Linux, including user-friendly interfaces (e.g. Flatpak), and it's far more extensive than anything I've ever seen on Android

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But the average user and most advanced users dont do any of that. Android always does that you cant do that. Android was build with security in mind. GNU/Linux is just a copy of earlier unix systems that didnt think about security. Android has the superior security architecture. You can of course use QubesOS but from what ive seen its not user friendly and has very bad performance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Flatpaks and other container solutions are actually fairly popular; my point is that Android potentially being more secure for beginners (which is not the case for most devices by default since they use proprietary versions of Android) doesn't make it the most secure operating system, not by a long shot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

the video is based on a hardened version of Android run on a device with no vulnerabilities or backdoors, and there's nothing in it that shows Android as superior to hardened Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, etc. -- it's also important to note that the userspace permission system on Android, unless variants like GrapheneOS have massively improved this, is extremely underwhelming in terms of restricting access to your files since it doesn't let you grant access on a file-by-file basis

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wouldnt it make more sense to keep Android App Compatibility? I dont really see any good reson to not still support apks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I mean, they are searching for almost full disassociation from android at this point, so I don't see why they would seek that. Pretty sure once they fully port the biggest apps used by chinese netizens (微信,微博,小红书, etc.) people won't care about apks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

With something like the Huawei Mate 60 Pro, you can run sandboxed Play Store apps using their GBox store. They also have their own app store, App Gallery (I think that's the name) which have quite a number of apps already.

There is another Play Store sandbox app store too, I think it works well enough from what I read.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have a device I could run the dev version of HarmonyOS on, I was thinking about how it would be nice to develop for it.

I won't be able to though because I can't code :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can learn if you can set aside some time to do it. It's also not a bad thing to learn how to code if you really want to do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Your suggestion has been laid in my mind and hatched. I will do my best cde to make you proud 🫡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'm more in the data analysis side. Bioinformatics and all that jazz, I have a bit if python and scripting under my belt and I've struggled to learn more.