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[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“Young people are finding cinemas as a way to potentially find a cheap form of entertainment. A cheap way to take the family out," Mr Tubman says.

And he’s lost all credibility. Nothing about the cinemas is a cheap time out.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I live in a third would country and the cinema is really cheap here.

They are just as nice as the ones in the states, but they don’t charge a fortune for popcorn.

Additionally, you can bring your own food and drinks.

A few years ago one cinema tried to ban it and their competitor advertised that they welcome outside food. Banning outside food was dropped almost right away.

So, grab a burger king meal, some ice cream and head into the cinema.

Not sure how it is in Australia.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Tuesday afternoon $7 tickets at the independent cinema, a trip to IGA and a big purse means I can manage a decent $20 date for two.

But I don't really want to sit elbow to elbow with strangers in a sticky uncomfortable seat, while kids cry, the guy in front keeps checking his phone with the screen brightness set to "solar flare", and the Capti-view the staff gave me breaks or desyncs halfway through the movie.

The last few times I went the experience was so uncomfortable, I don't think they could give the tickets away for free to make me go again. My best friend and I will take a laptop to the park, relax on a picnic blanket with some Bluetooth headphones and snacks and enjoy a pirated movie in relative peace and comfort. It's a change of scenery and a cheap outting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You pay more per hour for a movie as minimum wage? Parking? Junk food?

Burn it all down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

$8.71 for a “gallon” of milk? No way. 3 litres is $4.50 and that’s basically the same amount.

I don’t trust those sites, never know where they pull this pricing from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

formally the position is "no outside food"

In reality the ushers don't get paid enough to give a shit

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My parents keep asking my wife and I to fly out to spend time with them.

They don’t get that we are trying to save for a house. Like, I do want to fly out and visit you, but we live in different countries and once all things are considered, we will be paying a huge amount of our savings to go out.

My wife and I just got to a point where we can start to save good money each month. Our parents owned their own home by the time they were our age. It’s like we have to play this game of catchup to have some stability.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Ask them to pay for the flights. Win win.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

my parents bought their first house in 1980 for roughly $25k. Its hard to find a good house in my area now for ten times that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Interest rates mostly hurt people who have big loans" is news now?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

And people who rent, which is a majority or significant minority depending on how you define young.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I get that there's a real issue now, mostly driven by wage stagnation, but younger people have always had to do more being tightening than older people, at least as long as I've been alive. When I first got married, we had to buy the cheapest food we could while my parents and their friends were going to Hawaii, and that was in the 80s.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A big difference, however, is that houses in the 80s were 3-4 times the average income. Now that ratio is about 10x.
Younger generations always need to work harder than older people, yes, but the major difference is that working hard these days doesn't provide the same rewards that it once did.

https://www.finder.com.au/owning-a-home-in-the-80s-vs-today

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Oh, like I started with, wage stagnation is a massive problem, especially combined with the stomach turning growth in executive compensation. Just saying, even if the degree has gotten worse, people starting out have pretty much always had to do what this headline says.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

yeah but how old were you when you got married?

How old were your parents?

At my age (45), my parents had paid off their house. Me? I just managed to get the mortgage going last year. And I earn a fuckton more than they did.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

When I got married the first time, I was 22 and my parents were in their late 50s. Strangely, it was getting divorced four years later that helped me out because, even though it wiped out all my savings, I ended up living very cheaply as a single person and I was making good money (late 80s now, before wage stagnation was bad). By the time I got married again in 96, with a small amount of help from my parents (and because real estate crashed around then), I was able to afford a down payment for a reasonable mortgage.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

I love that generational inequality can be measured in this way. It would be great to see how different policy changes in the last 50 - 60 years correlate across generation groups.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Young people are continuing to bear the brunt of rising interest rates and rental pressures, while older Australians are splashing out on cruises and dining out, new spending data indicates.

Its latest quarterly report found that after spending on housing costs is stripped away, people under 30 years old are even cutting back on essentials such as food, fuel and insurance.

He says this trend reversed and a "tipping point" emerged in mid-2022 as the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) started hiking interest rates to tackle rising prices (inflation).

Independent economist Nicki Hutley tells ABC News that the drop in spending by this age group "must be the rental effect" because not many Australians this young have yet bought their own homes.

This divide between generational spending and cutbacks has been leading to concerns that the Reserve Bank of Australia's macroeconomic policy is unfairly punishing younger people.

It is also more likely you're feeling financially stressed right now if you're in an eastern state city, such as Sydney or Melbourne, where rents are still rising after international migration hit a record high and net outflows to regional areas slowed post-COVID.


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[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago

Older people have worked all their lives.... That is how it should work