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I tried a couple of times and it's still magic to see anyone able to use it properly

I'll just stick to VScode for now I guess

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are actually interested in learning, it's not too hard, you'll be slow for a little bit but it pays off in the end.

First, understanding there are actions and objects and quantifiers. Actions are what you do to objects, so when you want to (d) delete, that is the action, then you'd want to specify a object. ($) being the end of the line, (^) start, (w) is word, (j), (g) is top of file and so on, these are already the words you'll use to move along as well.

Then, for many of these we can add quantifiers, i.e. repeat x number of times.

So 3dw is delete three words and 3dj is three lines down and so on. If you want to select, it's just swap v for d and off to the races.

Once you learn the basic concept, you really only need a few actions and a few objects to be functional.

Print/find/make a cheat sheet and put it up by your monitor or keyboard and give yourself a week.

Also, checkout the vimtudor or vim golf and play the game for a few minutes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly that ability to edit stuff sounds really cool to be able to do

Maybe I should start out by making a cheet sheet with your comment in it and just try doing some basic editing with it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

PSA: run vimtutor in the terminal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is exactly how I learned all those years ago, and to this day, I still use vim regularly. As in, literally, I was using it on a server this morning to make some changes. It's just become natural to me now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oooh that's a handy feature I didn't know about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

By the way, the vim extension for VScode is great, so why not combine both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Helix > Vim (and neovim)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As a long time vim user with many macros and plugins, etc. and I love using it. But I have to say, it's hard for me to actually suggest vim to anyone new, because of how long it takes until you actually start using it comfortably...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Drat, I've been working with vi for 35y now... (feeling old) I'm glad I now know how to kill the mouse functions in vim so X clipboard works. ;)

Tried emacs once (in '94)... opened an extra xterm and killed it as I couldn't figure out how to save and exit. (it's just what you're used to ;) )

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so.. how does one kill the mouse functions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

With a stick ;)

From my .vimrc:

" disable mouse
set mouse-=a
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have about 30 years of my career left. That's not enough time for the return on investment of learning VIM to payout.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. I know the basics. I can open, do some very basic editng, save and close. That's about as much as is really needed, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can close VIM? Fucking legend.