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https://youtu.be/5lj99Uz1d50

The Three Body Problem trailer for the new Netflix adaptation is out. I must say I am very skeptical of this one. This being one of my favorite books I have my doubts that they will do it justice. I'm sure it will be visually interesting and everything, but that's not really the point. Especially not for book 1.

I recently watched both the Tencent live adaptation as well as the animated adaptation of The Dark Forest and sometimes I feel like these books were better left on paper. The live show wasn't bad or anything it just has a different feel to it on screen that's hard to understand.

Warning: please refrain from posting book spoilers in this thread. General discussion is fine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess the possible saving grace here would be that the books are finished. They did a good job adapting what was already there for GOT - that's to say, made very entertaining and engaging TV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

After what Netflix did with the Witcher series I’m skeptical. The Witcher was a good, if not great, series of books and short stories, but nowhere near as rich as the GoT material. I found 3BP a middling/good sci-fi story, but to western-ify character development I think they’re going to have to spice it up - and that can only end in tears.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it'll be a spectacle, one way or another lol

0 confidence they'll do it justice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm willing to be surprised by something good. But I'm not holding my breath.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Before looking at the trailer, I was expecting a complete white wash without any of the Chinese history. But after seeing that, I have some hope that it is faithful. We shall see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just want to see how bad the CGI is when the bullet tears apart all the ships. On a scale of ST:ToS to Battlestar Galactica I bet it's in the ReBoot level of CGI.

Oh damn I just necro'd the hell out of this lol oops

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think there is much concept of necro posting here. At least not while the activity level is as it is. Better than making a bunch of identical posts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. Old habit from ancient forums.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I, like a few other people apparently, liked the ideas in the book but was really turned off by the clunky dialogue. Not sure if it was a translation thing, a culture thing or a stylistic choice.

As a result I'll probably check it out because I didn't love the book so much I'd be worried they'll commit sacrilege with the TV show :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've found Netflix is that worst company at revealing too much plot/the twist in their trailers. I'm incredibly happy that they're making this, but I'll wait to actually watch it rather than watching their trailer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like the Youtube channel Quinn's Ideas has probably done this story more justice than Netflix ever could, but I'm at least glad to see a great story get a little attention rather than just another "reboot" of some terrible comic book story or another pathetic cash grab of a movie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I listened to the first two books in the series on audio. The first book was very interesting and it kept me hooked. The second book was.... different feeling, it just didn't feel as good as the first book. The 3rd book, Death's End, man, it was such a slog even in audio book format that I stopped listening to it a little past half way through in favor of another book.

Like was mention, I wonder if it's an issue with something being lost in translation, but the first book was so good that doesn't seem to be an accurate explanation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The third book was so bad. I loved the first and actually enjoyed the second (it was the first time i heard about "the dark forest" theory), but the third just annoyed me.

From the moment the MC failed her task because of her motherly instincts or some bs like that to the last 100+ pages that were just the author masturbating over his ideas of how ultra high-tech-civilizations could develop, there was nothing that made sense or was really compelling about it.

You missed nothing stopping midway through book 3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like the enders game series. I wonder why so many things fall off at number 3, and why we can't be sated with one good story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loved the first Ender's Game, and then I read the follow up book from Bean's perspective. But outside of those, I didn't even attempt all the sequels.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enders shadow (the bean story) is the only one worth a minute of your time. Speaker of the dead had some interesting ideas regarding star travel, but quickly became overly simplified.

That simplification was expanded on (by making more parts of nature simpler and simpler) in the hive queen and the hegemon, and then made incredibly spiritual in xenophobia (might have that name wrong, never finished the book).

As contrarian as forums on the internet are, I've yet to see anyone argue the enders game series is worth finishing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel we can also add the Dune series to the same list. I think the first book is the strongest, I couldn't get into the 2nd, but I'm told the first 3 were good then it goes rapidly downhill from there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Dune series actually picked up again down the line. Chapterhouse and Heretics really made sense of the whole arc, but I’m not sure I would have slogged through the middle books if I hadn’t been such an avid reader looking for new content as it came out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone watched to Chinese version?

I’ve started to and it seems good so far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea, it is nearly word for word a 1:1 copy of the book. I think the parts in the 3 body game are the most fun.

However, they did leave out some of the violent parts of the cultural revolution. I suspect the CCP didn't want that on TV. They also have some rules about showing the deaths of "innocent" people so they changed some people from the books from normal people into murderers and rapists which is a bit weird.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I did, and I enjoyed it immensely. The actors were impressive, especially the one portraying Shi Qiang and Ye Wenjie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm in the 3/4 episode. Seems good. But its easy to get lost in the plot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am not at all confident that anyone, least of all these two chuckleheads, are capable of adapting this series faithfully. IMO this is a story best kept to the page, at least for now.

I'm expecting original Dune (1984) levels bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was excited for this until I saw who was making it! I'm going to give it a shot, but like you I'm not confident it will work as a TV show. Maybe if they did book 1 + book 2 as the first season.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I love Dune! Both the 1984 version and the new one.

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