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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I find it strangely hard to care about the fate of a handful of multimillionaire tourists when hundreds of refugees died last week due to the indifference of the Greek authorities - and the media barely noticed.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s sort of… poetic in a messed up way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Only if the sub remains undiscovered for ~70 years.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

CBS dude rode on it and did an interview with the owner.

So many red flags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o&feature=youtu.be

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast... holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

lmao for real. Couldn't even fork out for a first party controller.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel.

“Steel is real.”

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that.

Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I seem to recall a point in that CBS video where they had to sign a waiver stating among other things that they acknowledged it was an experimental vessel that is not certified by or approved any regulatory agency, so, yeah. I don't know that I'd count on there being rigorous safely standards in that case

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

...officials are working to get a remotely operated vehicle that can reach a depth of 6,000 meters (about 20,000 feet) to the site as soon as possible.

The 5-person submersible, named Titan, is capable of diving 4,000 meters or 13,120 ft. “with a comfortable safety margin,” OceanGate said in its filing with the court.

but...after looking up on Wikipedia

...a wreck that lies over 12,000 feet (3,700 m) below the surface...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they’re advertising the depth limit of the recovery vehicle, not claiming that the wreck is actually at 20,000 feet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

They probably need quite a bit of margin too if the craft accidentally got lost in a deeper area

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Maybe they're concerned that it no-clipped through the sea bottom and wound up deeper than the Titanic's current location?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It might be best practice to use a vessel rated for considerably deeper than you actually go, in case of some problem in the hull?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And/or it's just a description of a particular vehicle they're bringing that was most convenient to get there quickly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

It's not like they're going to say, "oh, don't bring THAT recovery vehicle, it can go TOO deep."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

What I dont get is that one of the passengers was a billionaire. He could have built himself the fanciest and safest vessel for a few Million Dollars with a whole naval operation attached. Of course thats a lot more than 250K but still nothing for a billionaire. These people are so out of touch and greedy its insane.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It goes to prove that billionaires are just as gullible as the rest of the people, all they had was just money and assets, it doesn't grant them wisdom or intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That much money must give you incredible hubris: up until this point you’ve never had a problem that money couldn’t fix (or ease) for you.

Unfortunately, you can’t bribe physics.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Goes to further prove that it doesn't take brains to become a billionaire, I guess

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Very wealthy people wasting a huge amount of society's resources to have mild fun doing something very risky then having to get rescued on the back of society at a high cost. I say let's enjoy watching them die.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

this is a very weird first comment to make and the subsequent comments neither look productive nor particularly on topic. let's save the thirsting for rich people blood for a topic where it's more warranted folks, please and thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry but saying you'd enjoy watching someone die under any circumstances is disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hey now, that money goes to support the families of the people who make shoddy tourist submarines, who then go on to spend that money on groceries and rent and so on, driving the overall economy. The money isn't really "wasted." If it weren't for these submarine tours the money would just remain sitting in rich peoples' wallets doing nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Regardless of one's opinion the super rich, the thing also has crew that are just there because they're paid to operate the thing, I doubt they make enough to buy tickets for this kind of thing themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even if I had a stupid amount of money, there's no way in hell I would pay someone to stuff me inside what seems to be an over-sized propane tank, then send me to depths where the water pressure is so extreme it will literally crush you.

Just...no.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I particularly like the part where this specific submersible can't ever be opened from the inside, because it gets bolted shut from outside.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

This shits going to keep happening as companies continue to rush commercialization of "Extreme" Travel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

So they wanted to die. Got it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

According to the article there is a metal eating bacteria that’s eating the titanic? And it the wreckage might be gone in a few decades?

That’s incredible

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now they probably have a new submersible to munch on...

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