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It's actually compact, cheap, has oled, in-screen fingerprint reader, stock Android, NFC, Snapdragon SOC, supports GSI and has unlockable bootloader. Seems like a perfect phone (well except nonexpandable storage), so what's the catch?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It isn't that compact. Comparatively, sure, but objectively, no. My samsung s10e is smaller and more lightweight and it's not even that compact in my opinion. There hasn't been a truly compact mainstream phone since the Sony xperia xz1 compact. Before that it was the moto g. IPhone mini was pretty small, but fuck apple though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agree, but at the same time we also haven't seen a true big phone as well. Something like the Galaxy Mega, Huawei Mate 20X or Xperia Z Ultra.

Its very unfortunate we only get phones between 6.0" and 6.8".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seen it in person yesterday and while it's not iPhone Mini-compact, it is very tiny compared to my Redmi Note 10 Pro

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

zenphone might be another option for you too, I know that one was relatively standard/normal sized. Can't call them compact, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately Zenphone is at least twice as expensive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

sounds about right...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does it support custom ROMs? I go4 a Motorola g73, perfect phone, except there's not a single custom ROM that supports it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Supposedly so; apparently it supports Project Treble, so you can technically flash any GSI on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All Android phones support Treble if they have Google services, right?

I haven't used a GSI before. How are they? What's the difference between a GSI and a custom ROM?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

All Android phones support Treble if they have Google services, right?

I don't think so, though I'm not sure.

I haven’t used a GSI before. How are they?

Neither have I; I'm only relaying what I read online about the device in question.

What’s the difference between a GSI and a custom ROM?

The difference is that GSI is device-agnostic, because all required drivers are on the device and stay there between flashes. ROM have to be device-specific as they have to include drivers. My understanding is GSI compatibility is merely dictated by up-to-date kernel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also large battery (4000mAh)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's actually small. For 6.3 inches I would expect 4500-5000.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Its not compact, not waterproof, no wireless charging and not available in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

it is compact in terms of Android devices, don't care for waterproofness, fair point for wireless charging, I'm not American.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The catch is probably Motorola's lackluster software update commitment (I think it's around 2 years. It's already been updated once, so you only have 1 big OS update left.) and the terrible chipset. The Snapdragon 695 isn't that much better than the Snapdragon 732G and the Snapdragon 732G phone I had was constantly dropping frames in the simplest animations even 2 years ago. This is not a good buy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I think Motorola is just being smart. Now that xiaomi crap is becoming either too expensive or plain shit they saw a niche and they're filling it. Recently got the g84 and I can't believe what I got for my money - I guess they reduced their margins so they can own the lower end. Or medium end to be honest