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I wanted to get a pulse check on how new members are finding the general experience/website. Is it more confusing than Reddit or are you finding the instance system a better way of doing things as it can give you more freedom of where you choose to create an account?

I'm a new user myself but have found the experience to remind me of Reddit back in the day, lol. It's definitely giving me old-school yet modern vibes and it's great to see something that isn't Reddit growing in popularity!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will make this my first ever Lemmy post:

Overall, this definitely feels like a promising alternative with some growing pains. The bigger communities are decently active but the decentralized nature of Lemmy carries the risk of some communities becoming too fragmented where communities are duplicated in different instances. As some other users have suggested, This could be remedied by creating "Super communities" spanning the Fediverse which could help with growing to a scale large enough to rival Reddit and incentivise even more Redditors to make the switch.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Lemmy desperately needs to integrate two things:

  • The ability to search for communities across instances inside of Lemmy (I'm aware of the search option outside of Lemmy, but that's less than ideal)
  • The ability to easily search within posts A) in all local communities, B) in all subscribed communities, and C) across all communities in the whole Fediverse. Yes, I'm aware that C) is a huge ask. But I think it's vital to the success of Lemmy.
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Confusing. There are communities I can't subscribe to because I can't access them from my instance, and I have no idea why that is. The experience has been interesting so far, and growing the network is going to be something I'll be keeping an eye on. For now, though, I'll have to wait until someone creates the communities I was a part of on Reddit.

Edit: It seems a community won't show up on your instance's community list unless someone in that instance is subscribed to it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Echoing many things that other users are saying already:

Signing up/choosing a home instance is confusing. I don't think it's very confusing conceptually, but it is confusing from a UX/UI perspective. Subscribing to outside communities was the toughest part, I had to find them through a different instance using a search engine, then manually paste the community-specific URL into my home instance search, wait several seconds, then click into the community home page and finally click "subscribe."

Not something a casual user is going to want or even figure out to do. I trust that many of these growing pains will be fixed in the coming weeks/months. I just hope that it's not all a flash in the pan and then fizzles out totally.

Once using it though, I like the general feel of it. Better themes and some cleaner UI choices and it will be really nice imo. People are friendly so far and that's worth a ton right there.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'll be honest. While I like the idea of decentralized social stiff, its also a huge issue. First you have to choose an instance, which isn't too bad, but you can't move. I hear Lemmy.ml being under pressure and I want to move somewhere else to help.with that. My account is 4 years old though and I can take nothing with me. Additionally this means all my content is on one instance. If that ever goes down, the network as a whole my keep existing, but my user and all I've put into Lemmy will be gone. And while I trust Lemmy instances more than reddit in terms of privacy, I'm not so sure when it comes to uptime and longevity. Finally, the whole concept of decentralized is hard to wrap my head around. My instance being separate from others but still being subscribed to communities of other instances feels unintuitive. Its the she issue I have with mastodon. I keep loosing track of instances, communities, apps etc. All with different names and logins etc.

For now, I'm trying to get used to Lemmy and just search for communities I'm subscribed to on reddit and see how it goes. It definitely works well enough. Just some conceptual issues I might have to get used to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. To add to this, if an instance suddenly changes its rules (e.g. in response to the influx of new users), I have to either adhere to those rules, or abandon my old account. I think allowing migration should be a priority.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

There's an open issue for migration (export/import) so it's on the roadmap. But looks like it hasn't been high priority yet

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/506

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Search is brutal. I dont want to open a new link, i just want to type what im searching for and then search for it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love how it feels like a smaller but friendlier reddit. I hope more people can join

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm so confused!! Still trying to figure out how to tell jerboa to show me communities that aren't local (and aren't showing in all - I did find memes and other juicy numbers there!)...

I might have made the mistake of trying to pick a server that wasn't struggling under the load of the Reddit refugees, but I still don't think it was a bad idea...

Quite a learning curve though. Some cheat sheets or heaven forbid, starter packs would be snazzy :)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are much friendlier here, so far.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love it here and I'll express myself and show love to all with manatees

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think my experience can be best summed up by:

404: FetchError: invalid json response body at http://lemmy:8536/api/v3/site

Jokes aside, the web portal is pretty great. Jerboa seems... like it needs some polish.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I would give them a little benefit of the doubt. There were probably less than 50 Jerboa users last week and it was a slow hobby project.

With all this renewed interest there has already been a lot of fast progress and a massive update is coming out soon (I think). There's a community for the app though if you want to see how development is going!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interface is better than "new" Reddit, not as good as old Reddit + RES.

If I click on a link on another instance (for example https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy when I'm signed in on lemmy.world), I'm not signed in to lemmy.ml so I have to manually search for it in lemmy.world to post there - is there a common solution to that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How federalization works can be a bit confusing. For me the biggest hurdle to get over was how the different instances - lemmy.ml and lemmy.world - are separate websites. They can connect and interact with each other because they're federalized, but your account is only on lemmy.world.

Now for some magic!

Relative links for communities (subreddits) can work across instances:

As long as your instance knows the community exists the links should work.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

cool that it's written in Rust also decentralization (not the blockchain kind) is the future, but...
lemmy ui feels kinda unpolished, and sometimes community join requests just hang forever.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just signed up a few hours ago. So far it seems to be entirely dominated by posts about the recent reddit drama which makes it hard to judge if there is much regular content here that I would enjoy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The one thing I'm struggling with is how do I find a subreddit equivalent? For example r/formula1 or r/UKpolitics on Reddit might be.... What?

Also is it possible to find these communities using Jerboa or so I need to login on my desktop?

Edit - spelling

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Many specific subreddits don't have equivalents yet; check Communities (top bar on website)/All. On Jerboa the Communities button is the three dots on the bottom bar: https://reddthat.com/post/8623

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

New user and reddit refugee here! The instance system isn't as straightforward as something like reddit where all of the content exists in the same place, but once I understood how the system works (via the first few posts I saw after opening the Jerboa mobile app for the first time) I got signed up on an instance that ISN'T lemmy.ml and I've just began surfing in earnest! Thanks to the community that's made this possible!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The app I'm using (Jerboa) is a bit lacking, but I'm sure it'll improve. I'm unsure about how accounts work with the servers, can I migrate my account if the server I am using shuts down? Communities are tiny and a lot are missing, but I'm sure those will grow and fill in as more people join.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's got all the potential, and I really mean it. I want to be here and I will try to contribute wherever I can. The onboarding of the platform is confusing, but everyone already knows that. I can see the growing pains, but that's totally fine.

I enjoy the format, and I very much like what Lemmy is meant to become.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Much like when I went from Twitter to Mastodon, finding "my people" is a lot more work. It's unpleasantly easy for links to a community to take me directly to that instance instead of leaving my on my instance where I'd be able to subscribe and interact. But also like Mastodon, the experience is much nicer once things start getting set up. Really nice not getting pestered to use the app constantly!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's weird, a little confusing, and a little janky. Love it so far. It's not a novel observation on my part but it definitely feels new and exciting the way Reddit and Tumblr did back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The web is okay, kind of, but the mobile apps (what I mainly use to browse this stuff) are sorely lacking, especially on iOS.

I decided to write my own client (mostly for myself) and so far the API seems very straightforward. Might eventually publish it to the stores, if its mature enough.

It's heavily based on Apollo (in case it wasn't obvious). One might even call it a rip-off πŸ˜…

What I'd really like to work on after the basic navigation is done is discoverability. I think the platform really needs some improvement there.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Sorry if this has been asked before. But my front page seems to dynamically add new posts as I'm scrolling. It makes me lose my place during the scroll. How can I have it just load once at start, and then allow me to scroll through?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the idea of Lemmy and I haven't found it too hard to create an account and get the gist of things.

BUT, the novelty will wear off and I'm not interested in general channels. I used Reddit for UX design, menslib, indieheads, OCD support, and lots of niche stuff that doesn't seem to exist here.

I know the answer is for me to get involved, but I work long hours and am a single dad to 2 .. I could set something up, but I don't have time to find quality OC and nurture multiple communities. I'd honestly be a poor mod.

I half expect Reddit to announce major changes to their official app, which may be enough to win a proportion of people back.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like it here a lot more than Mastodon and its so much easier to go and subscribe to other communities at other nodes/servers also to engage in other servers as well. Mastodon was a little more complicated, you do that but it was a little fincky IMO and of course I love Lemmy more than Reddit and I hope it blows up also stays that way too lol (RIP all the servers)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty cool so far. Takes some getting used to, little buggy here and there, but nothing intolerable. People are more respectful on here. On reddit and most all other platforms, I just lurked for the most part to avoid getting "aKsHuAlLy'D" by some angry poster. It's chill here and it's got potential ^-^

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm really enjoying Lemmy so far, it's a lot different from Reddit but at the same time feels familiar. I understand and like the concept of a bunch of small hosted servers federated together. I feel like if user logins were also federated that would solve a ton of the onboarding issues for new people. I really miss default subreddits too.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just something to get the hang of. Currently somewhat confusing, but not insurmountable. It does feel a lot like Reddit did some thirteen years ago. This is a nice blend of modern and easy to use, and has a whiff of my early days on the internet (bb's, forums, etc) without measuring internet speeds in kbps, which is nice.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I was new to Reddit (3 weeks of activity), and switching to Lemmy is a bit confusing. But one evening is enough to learn the basics, I hope. Let's keep it rolling. :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The interface is nice and friendly, but the way the fediverse and the different instances works is kind of confusing. Still not sure what that's all about

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm kinda hoping someone will point out this feature already exists, but I wish there was a way to subscribe to a topic. Right now it feels like multiple instances are forming their own, say, gaming community, and it feels like this is splintering the community rather than growing it?

Other than that, I actually really like the decentralised nature -- and, while this is likely due to the very early nature of things, man is it nicer here. Weirdly feels like early Slashdot days...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think this is my only real issue. It would be amazing to have an app that would allow you to create a gaming "folder" of sorts that you could drop all the gaming communities into under one heading.

Since you can already post to different instances, having a way to better organize them would solve for the fragmentation pretty well. Then even with multiple gaming communities, they all still show as #Gaming or whatever on the user end.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been a Redditor for more than 16 years, and it's a little complicated understanding how this works. But I'm sure I'll get the hang of it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think Lemmy seems like a good idea and generally like it so far, but i do think that users that aren't that tech savvy may have issues. It's also nice that the servers are customizable in a way, but at the same time if you pick certain servers you can't see down votes, or creating communities might be disabled which will seem inconsistent to newcomers that think of Lemmy as a more traditional platform like Reddit that only has one instance. The community search is also pretty clunky, a lot of users will probably have trouble understanding why they can't just find all available communities instead of writing an obscure email-like string that still says "no results", but then magically after searching again it will be there. I would say some areas are unpolished and even a bit buggy at times too. I figured these things out pretty fast, but being a software dev myself, i know that an end-user may struggle a lot more with these things, to the point where they may just abandon the platform out of frustration. I hope some of the rough edges can be smoothed out because the idea of this platform is definitely interesting, but if average people can't use it it's less likely to really succeed. I must admit that even i am a bit skeptical, and i may have to return to Reddit if not enough users/content migrate to this platform, even though i don't really like many of the decisions Reddit make. I'm giving it a fair shot though and i definitely like it so far.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Confusing. The apparent 'segregation' of instances is difficult to get my head around. The Jerboa app is (understandably) in early days and not that intuitive to use. The layout of the website isn't much better (it wasn't at all obvious how you're suppose to even post stuff, for example). I get that we're all coming in on the 'ground level' here, but the whole set up feels very rough-and-ready. I'll keep an eye on Lemmy to see how things progress but at the moment, honestly, if feels like I'm working against Lemmy/the Fediverse rather than with it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find it easier than using mastodon for the first time tbh

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've been here for about a day and I've been very impressed! I happened to pick a pretty decent seeming instance to start from and I've not had too much difficulty figuring out this whole fediverse thing

I've also had a very good experience in Firefox on Android for browsing

I do think Lemmy is going to need to implement more load balancing and I'd love to be able to spin up a server to donate some cycles and bandwidth to help load balance an existing Lemmy instance

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There's a learning curve for sure, but I think I could get used to it. I'm hoping this boom during the Reddit black out helps pick up steam and we see a lot of cool features roll out in the mobile app/mornptions for fedoverse clients.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an exciting re-imagining of a few ideas (usenet, digg) seemingly mashed together.

I'm finding a lot of content that I've voted on, and I'm maybe done-with. I'd love to know (where to find) an option to hide content I've seen and voted around, so I can just count on regular in-mail to chase the conversation. I'm sure that nit will go away once I find some menu-option I'm just not seeing!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I’m really glad that browse.feddit.de exists because it’s near impossible to find instances otherwise. However, I wish the β€œcopy” button on the search results copied !communityName@instanceName rather than a simple URL to make it easier to sub to that community from any instance.

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