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Why YSK: making the most of the fediverse means aggregating content from as many places as possible, but it's not an intuitive process right now, especially for those using apps like Jerboa or Mlem.

I have been seeing some comments from people struggling to subscribe to kbin magazines from Lemmy so here's a step-by-step of how I've been doing it:

  1. Note the name of the kbin magazine you want to subscribe to (example: kbin.social/m/books)
  2. Log into your Lemmy instance from a browser
  3. The Lemmy instance you are registered with will be the first part of the URL and the kbin community will be the second part. Example: I'm registered with lemmy.world so to register with the kbin Books magazine I would type https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
  4. From there, just hit subscribe and it will start showing up anywhere you're logged into your Lemmy instance (I use Jerboa).

Hopefully this helps spread the word!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This stuff should be automated and let the back end automation handle this stuff for less technically inclined folks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be. There are a lot of bugs and issues right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is there a repo link to track features and bugs?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep your pants on... This patform had maybe 12k users less than a month ago. There's gonna be some growing pains.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah dawg these pants stay off #dicksout

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What does did you mean Dick Scout?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also search for it in the communities (browser only), just sort by All.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing that!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There really needs to be a Lemmy/Kbin version of Graze for Mastodon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@airportline I was just thinking this. Graze has saved Mastodon for me

@morelikepinniped

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been trying to get this to work for someone (I'm on kbin, they're on lemmy) but I just get a 404 error. The magazine is kbin.social/m/LucidDreaming, so following your guide I should try https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected], correct? Any idea what's going wrong?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hello again, I see there are still issues with your community, unfortunately. Hopefully someone here can help!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had the same problem. 404 and not appearing in the communities search. I gave it a day or so, and it worked. Maybe its some kind of syncing delay between instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have them go to search, make sure everything is searching all, and have them put https://kbin.social/m/LucidDreaming as the search query.

There’s a solid chance they won’t be able to see anything posted prior to when they subscribe, but at least that will make the community federate with that person’s Lemmy instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They really need to fix that. It shouldn't require a subscription to federate. That just means that an /all view is wrong and from this thread, we can see it's a major UX stumbling block

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“All” picks up any communities your instance knows about, whether you personally are subscribed or not. My understanding is that once one person from your instance subscribes to something it starts federating, but unless someone does that it stays separate.

While I agree being able to search for communities needs a little help if it’s a brand new community outside of your home instance to make it less confusing, it makes sense from the standpoint of having to tell the community to talk to an external instance by having someone from the external instance subscribe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think these instructions only work for communities someone on your instance has already subscribed to. Instead, try going https://lemmy.world/search and entering the full URL for the community ( https://kbin.social/m/LucidDreaming ). It'll spin for a little longer than usual but it should show up in the search results.

Edit to add: The community will probably appear empty, however... new posts will show up, but anything from before the you subscribed probably won't. If you want to reply to a particular comment, though, you can make it show up by searching for its full URL.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was about to reply saying that the search didn't work, that I could only see two comments I made in kbin.social sharing the link, but then I pressed the next button and there was a one line link to the community on the next page. Really weird formatting, but that did it! Thanks a lot! :)

EDIT: @cdiv So it turns out that this worked for lemmy.world but not for sh.itjust.works. When I search there I only see comments where people have mentioned the link, but no actual link to the community. This is so weird and confusing lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes! Awesome, nice to have you :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was not working for me and I finally figured out why. I was using the search under "Communities" and not the general search in the upper right. It is counter-intuitive that the communities search won't find unfederated communities while the general search will, but that is how it works.

That you all for this post. It did ultimately get me where I needed to be.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They show up fine in the communities search for me. https://i.imgur.com/iHO4wIP.png

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was using the search box above the "List of Communities" and getting no results. When I switched to clicking on the magnifying glass icon at the top of the regular page it worked. I don't know why.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's the box I used too. I looked into it a bit further and I think possibly the issue is the community/magazine you were searching for had not been subscribed to before by a user on your home instance. In that case the instance has no index for that community/magazine and you need to manually point it toward the instance it's on. But once this is done the community info is cached in the search for any user on that instance looking for that community later on. I guess once the ecosystem is mature then provided you're on a relatively populated instance and the community you're searching for isn't too niche, you could just go to the community search first and it'd work most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dear sweet baby Jesus, this solves so many problems I had with lemmy. Now I've got "subreddits", lemmywinks, lemmstwrs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

sublemmies... wait no it starts with c... clublemmits?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are just "communities".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like it! LEMMUNITIES!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wow you posted this right as I was looking for how to do it, lol. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really? in the browser I've had reasonable luck just searching the magazine Uri directly in my Lemmy instance.

No need to get the lemmy.world version.

Honestly. I find I almost never get success searching for random kbin and Lemmy communities/magazines in Jerboa - Bowser is king of Lemmy search.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks 👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Could you please add a “Why YSK:”? It’s rule #2. It's also helpful for readability, and informs readers about the importance of the content. Thank you. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't even know that you can connect both platforms. Gonna try it later, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Comment to save this since I don't know how to save posts on kbin (or if it's even possible yet?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone know how to do this the other way around? Subscribing to lemmy communities from kbin?

edit: it seems to work the same way. you just have to search for the community in kbin first or otherwise it will show a 404.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not having much luck finding smaller kbin magazines on lemmy. Hope things improve a bit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Probably the magazine has to be federated first - and so it has to be searched from the instance. I'll provide example using magazine AskKbin and assuming you're using browser version of Lemmy. The local adress for magazine is https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin
Go to your Lemmy and press search button. Search for the magazine using the local adress of the magazine (https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin). Once searched, it should start federating and you can subscribe to it. You should be able to easily subscribe to the magazine as well - as it is going to appear as community in search results. Similiarly you would initialte federation with communities from other instances of lemmy, if they aren't federated yet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Great info!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, so kbin is a fediverse server that is NOT lemmy, right? Can we see it if we search communities?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks dude. I was clueless too

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i did this with a couple magazines and they're sitting as 'subscribe pending'. how long does that usually take?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same here. And my front page is only one single community lol

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