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Respectfully, I find the Foundation TV series extremely disheartening. I envy those who can watch Lee Pace's triumphant acting without being completely off put by the appalling writing choices in the show. The fundamental aspects of the Robot, Empire, and Foundation series books clashe so hard with the message being presented in this show. The entire first season doggedly trashed psychohistory's main point by making single individuals into linchpins. Hari's double AI clones and his contrived disease was an abomination that undercut his entire function in the story. Demerzel (R Daneel Olivaw) is utterly without connection to their character from the book. It is infuriating to see a character that spent 18 books gently and intelligently guiding humanity towards a harmonious existence be turned into a Cleon sex doll muderbot. None of that should have been possible for them. It would have shredded their mind. In what universe can this character presented be guiding humans towards galaxia or second empire. The "believe in belief" motif of the show is antithetical to Azimovs clearly atheistic writing and goes counter to the whole message of his books. Intellectual pragmatism is replaced by dice rolling space cowboys. In the same way star trek has devolved from following hyper specialized intellectual duty-bound characters to flagrantly stupid/morally reprehensible ones, foundation has made its primary characters into people who ride on luck and faith.

All of this rant comes from a place of geniune distress and I don't mean to disparage anyone who enjoys the show. I've seen so much praise and it's causing me a lot of cognitive dissonance. I can't see how people aren't up in arms about Demerzel and the other character assassinations. I have no issue at all with any of the actor choices, design, artistry, or extraneous changes made to update the show to be a modern adaptation. There are even some good ideas, like the clone dynasty, which serve to enrich the story, but the flaws are to many to overlook. Are there any other foundation universe fans that feel the same way or am I living alone on the moon with a deteriorating positronic brain?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I agree with pretty much all of your points. I feel that the show has diverged so thoroughly from the books, that I can disassociate it from them, and watch it as something wholely unrelated.

Though tbh, even taking that approach, I find myself shocked at the range of writing quality in the show. Without spoilers, in S2 E1 there were two scenes back to back, the first with two men which was cleverly written in the subtle ways they were threatening each other, followed by a scene with two women discussing feeling out of place in the universe, and what should have been a fascinating conversation about the effects of cryo-sleep was just ham-fisted and boring!

I'm one of those for which Lee Pace is good enough to make the show worth continuing, but I'm sad that the show runners felt that audiences couldn't be trusted with the real Foundation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They could have done what they are doing with any characters from any galaxy unrelated to Asimov. But Goyer insisted on inserting his little ideas and heavy-handed points, then inflating them unnaturally to eclipse anything and everything about Asimov's vision.
Goyer's ego has distorted a timeless narrative and turned it into something utterly shallow and disposable.

I gave up on watching this plastic yet self-important series halfway through the first season, and allowed my Apple+ trial subscription to expire.