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A male contraceptive is almost here – and it’ll be another test of whether heterosexual men are actually willing to share the responsibilities of adult life

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

The article is kinda awful. It barely reports on the drug (it doesn't even mention the name of the drug or the study) and spends most of the time speculating that men are incapable of taking any kind of responsibility and practically blames them for all the problems that women face with contraceptives. Which might a fair assessment occasionally, but it's hardly a universal truth and has more to do with the availability of contraceptives that are controlled by corporations and healthcare providers not by the decisions of average people.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Am I bad at reading, or did the article not actually name the drug?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Your reading is fine, lazy writing I think. Its behind a hyperlink in the article (link here)

Its called YCT-529, made by YourChoice Therapeutics

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

YCT529 is a drug which acts as a potent and selective antagonist of the Vitamin A receptor retinoic acid receptor alpha (RAR-α). [0]

Yikes. I'd need pretty good evidence of safety to take something that does the opposite of tretinoin.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YCT529

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fuck kind of crazy pop-up bullshit is Wikipedia doing? That's some fucking annoying shit right there

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean asking for money so they can keep running?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No, I mean having their usual "donate" section pop up over the screen and make closing it annoying. That's bullshit.

Also, they're fully funded, so it isn't like it's some kind of emergency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It'll probably get a better name once it's available

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Bro-tection 🤞

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I didn't see a name...Also, not really a fan of how this article is written. I can't tell you much on the pill, but I can tell you how this author feels about men and their supposed unwillingness to participate in preventing pregnancy...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Misandric AF.

Male birth control pill is easy fucking math for a male brain. $20/mo copay, or half your paycheck for 18 years to a random girl at the bar...

"They aren't going to want the responsibility" is a reason they WILL get on the pill...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For those objecting to the anti-men polemic and lack of substance in the linked article: welcome to 'Opinions' (editorial) in 'The Guardian'. I enjoy their news coverage but these articles, often written by guest columnists, are every bit as toxic as their mirror image- editorial opinions in 'The Daily Mail', and typically just as devoid of substance. I would advise anyone to avoid them, and instead to search for reporting based on evidence and research. I haven't been able to find a recent one for this story on the Guardian's site, but here's one from Sky News: British men first in the world to try new hormone-free male contraceptive pill

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I never bother with opinion pieces from the Guardian. They do pretty good at straight journalism, but their op-eds are fucking bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Note that it's an opinion piece - not a journalistic article.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I can say from personal experience, rhetoric like this about men will spread like wildfire among all the wrong people. Those ""anti-sjw"" types will hold things like this up as emblematic of feminism as a whole, and impressionable young men who don't know any better will believe them. Barely concealed contempt for heterosexual men isn't exactly winning hearts and minds.

I also can't help but notice the similarities these jabs at men share with a bunch of conservative talking points: "heterosexual men don't help out enough around the house and should grow up" fits right in with "fat people should just diet and exercise" and "poor people should just go to college and learn to code". Villifying a demographic by interpreting a structural problem as simply a million individual failures doesn't leave you with a ton of options for solutions, other than "they all need to be better people."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I'm doing anecdotal here, so if that's not your bag, skip this comment.

But most of the guys I know are willing to at least try it. Single guys are less into the idea because they'll still need condoms anyway, so why bother with the added hassle (of getting a prescription) and expense? There's some that want it as a backup protection source, but they're a minority.

But married guys? Yeah, they're down with the idea of it as an added layer of prevention along with whatever their wife is using. For the folks where the uterus owning partner/spouse can't use hormonal birth control, it's a big hell yes because a male pill decrease the hassles involved in using the other options.

Me? Ehhh, I'm never an early adopter of anything medical, and by the time the beta testing that is a medication being offered to any and all is done, I doubt my wife will still be fertile. She's already showing signs of early menopause. But if I was a younger guy? Yeah, since we don't want another kid, hate condoms (both of us), she can't use hormonal methods, and don't like the margin of error with other methods, we'd at least try it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

My favorite birth control is what I look like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I was about to say I'd absolutely take it, as a mid 40s single guy with no interest in having more children.

Then I remembered I've already had a vasectomy so probably a bit superfluous at this juncture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That's sounds pretty promising. How does it actually function? I'm asuming it can't be hormonal considering how hard it is to block sperm production that way, which could maybe mean less (or at least different) side effects than hormonal birth-control.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There already was one... But no market...

Guys, just use a condom, it also protects against STDs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

just use a condom

I would argue for both.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, pills are always problematic for health, regardless of its for man or woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Condoms breaking are also problematic, but no worries I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not happening often if you treat them correctly and have the right size...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

not happening often

You’re almost there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

good news, and also probably if my immediate circles is any indication people are paranoid enough to take their own pills

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nah.

I got the snip.

The reassurance and certainty is very effective.