The comments are fascinating. It seems like a lot of Americans don't know about the ESTA program, and feel discriminated against.
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And if you point them to that, they say that illegal immigrants don't have to that and that Europeans are killing civilization. Conservatives are really beyond saving.
Obviously its way past time for us to leave NATO and let the Europeans finally start paying the bulk of their own defense instead of the US taxpayer. I also think we should write our congressmen to insist they pass a law requiring the same VISA app for the EU to come to America.
Lol.
The more comments I read the sadder I become. They have no information outside their own little fantasy-filled bubble.
Try living amongst them. They are dumb farm animals with anger management issues and don’t give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves and “owning the libs”. I’m convinced they’re all sociopaths.
Even if there was no such program, it's EIGHT DOLLARS. Who gives a fuck? If you're traveling to Europe from the U.S., the plane fare alone will be exponentially higher. Hell, we renewed and expedited our passports a few months ago and it cost us $500.
Hey instead of charging us regular people 8 dollars for exercising the right of migration why don't they just raise taxes on all those shitheads flying on private jets? No?
Don't be mad you paid that much if you used a service to expedite. Thats on you.
I'm not mad, I'm just talking about what things cost and why people shouldn't bitch about $8.
$8 is the fee the headline neglected to include. Also, that's less than the ~$20 equivalent visas Europeans have needed to enter the US for years.
NYPost is shit.
Sounds very similar to ESTA, which you have to get as a european visiting the US.
This one is a lot cheaper though, 8$ for 3 years, ESTA costs 14$ a year + 7$ at the port of entry (usually included in your airline ticket). Canada has this as well, ETA, which is also a lot cheaper.
I don't care about $8, but freedom of movement should be a more respected human right (in both/all directions). Anything that rejects entry for reasons other than actual imminent concern for the safety of citizens is bad.
Europe is doing it because the US does it to them.
I don't care about the price, It just sucks that there is ONE MORE thing I have to remember to do before traveling. It's not like going international isn't stressful enough.
Welcome to the third world country club buddy
You have to realize that every other country has been dealing with this forever, so think of it as Americans joining the rest of the world. It really isn't that bad.
That's a cynical way of looking at it.
How is that cynical? I see it as now Americans have to deal with what everyone else has had to deal with for decades, and the added requirement really isn't a huge burden. For a country like America that has a hardon for immigration and the like, it seems a bit hypocritical that we'd get upset the EU would like added protections at their borders. Kind of a leopards at my face situation.
I prefer fixing problems, not making sure that everyone has to suffer as well.
You are also generalizing and seem to think that the US government policies reflect the exact will of every single citizen at all times.
Kind of a leopards at my face situation.
Right you go spend your finite life enjoying revenge fantasies.
“Most Americans, in fact, all Americans, are not used to doing this to go to Europe so there’s going to be lots of surprises at boarding gates with people being denied boarding over the first couple of weeks if this goes into effect.”
Maybe just require verification of the authorization to book international flight? If it says you need it to book a room, I have to imagine there's some way for airlines to verify it.
There is and most of these types of visas can be issued at check-in electronically. People need to relax.
Damn. As an American, I was really looking forward to spreading my country's neoliberalism and tipping culture...
Great so one more thing to remember. Get a connecting flight in Europe now means a visa.
I'm not sure that's how that works. I think if you just have a layover and you remain in the secure area of the airport, you're not technically passing through a point of entry and only required a visa for your final destination.