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[LIVE THREAD] Donald Trump's arraignment in Miami; his supporters expected to protest outside of courthouse (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Donald Trump will be arraigned in federal court today, Miami braces for protest

Court appearance takes place at 3 pm ET in Miami
Expected to plead not guilty to 37 counts
Will voluntarily turn himself in before that
Will be fingerprinted digitally
Mugshot will likely not made public
Will not be handcuffed

Former president Donald Trump will be arraigned in Miami federal court Tuesday to face 37 counts connected to his keeping hundreds of classified documents at his Mar-A-Lago estate in Palm Beach after leaving the White House.

Trump has his first appearance scheduled for 3 p.m. Tuesday at the Wilkie D. Ferguson Jr. U.S. Courthouse in downtown Miami. Federal agents and police, media and crowds of supporters and detractors are expected to fill the streets around the courthouse.

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12:52pm

Police motorcycle escort arriving at Doral.

https://twitter.com/KarliBonnita/status/1668659961801453569

1:33pm

Trump Motorcade heading to Miami Courthouse

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1668674339820953602

1:46pm

Trump posts to social media from motorcade

1:52pm

Trump arrives at Miami Courthouse

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1668678566731456512

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1668678847191982080

2:14pm

Donald Trump formally arrested on federal charges, will appear before a judge shortly

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1668683739180703745

3:00pm

Trump now in federal court
Special Counsel Jack Smith is in attendance
Trump pleads "not guilty" to all 37 federal charges

3:15pm

Trump has been released without any travel conditions, as he is reportedly not a flight risk per the judge.
The judge said that former President Trump could have no contact with any witnesses in the case

3:55pm

Trump motorcade leaves courthouse through crowded streets
Protesters, one wearing a prisoner costume, jump in front of Trump's motorcade as he leaves court

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1668710687915253760

4:15pm

Trump makes a stop at Cafe Versailles after leaving courthouse

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1668715242019340288

5:00pm

Trump departs Miami airport for New Jersey
will deliver speech at 8pm from Bedminster

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I would love to see him in a regular prison like he deserves, but can a person with secret service protection even get anything worse than house arrest? I've been unable to find clarifying information on this.

What he deserves is to not have special treatment anymore, but who knows how it will happen

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I would imagine convictions related to espionage would probably strip you of any secret service protection. People argue that it's a former president's right to have SS protection, but remember the SS hasn't always been about protecting anyone, the used to only be counterfeit currency police

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I think at this stage removing it would be equivalent to tattooing "assassinate me" on his forehead.

Look I hate the guy too and he doesn't deserve his freedom, but there's a large number of people in this world who would love to merc a former POTUS regardless of who that POTUS is or what they did. And frankly Trump is more dangerous as a martyr than he is alive and alone on house arrest for the rest of his life.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah, ideal solution is that the SS detail remains intact and he just goes to jail and the SS just deals with it. I've heard that solitary is a good way to protect inmates when a substantial number of other inmates want to do them harm. Just sayin'

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It makes me sick seeing 10x the amount of cops as were present for Jan 6 there just to protect this fucking dipshit. There’s something really wrong about that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

They're there to protect the courthouse from the same people who were at Jan 6.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They prevented the Capitol Police from getting sufficient number of people and equipment without permission from Trump and he never gave it, if I remember correctly.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All I know is that if I were indicted with the same charges, I’d be sitting in prison awaiting trial

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

If any of us were indicted on even 1 of his 37 charges we would have been rotting in federal prison for the past 3 years

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You probably wouldn't even get that far honestly. Normal people don't really have a chance in these sorts of cases.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I've been biking to work and it's great. I would like the bus system to be more robust for further travels so I can avoid expensive ubers.

EDIT: LOL I posted in the wrong thread. Not sure what happened but I meant to post somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

lostredditors? lostlemmyusers? lostlemmings?!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lostlemmings gets my vote.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

lol there's a bug in Lemmy right now where sometimes somebody's comment will appear on another post. It almost happened to me but I noticed the instance switched posts before I clicked "reply". Had to refresh the page to get back to the right post.

Edit: That being said I like "lostlemmings"

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Lostlemmings is perfect!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

wrong thread but still based. bike + transit gang

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Nice dude. Fuck cars

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just want to say how good this post looks. Easy to follow updates with links and videos embedded. Great job lemmy!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was just thinking this looks so much better than reddit...

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The Average US President has been indicted 1.54 times. (Trump is the only US president to ever be indicted.)

Shamelessly stolen from someone on Mastodon (unfortunately I can't find the toot).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How does the math on that work? Number of indictments / number of Presidents = 1.54 would imply that the number of times Trump has been indicted exceeds the number of Presidents the U.S. has had and that ain't right...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

yeah, I think comment OP got number of times indicted (I think twice so far?) confused with number of charges (37 or so for this indictment, more in the past and more forthcoming)

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's incredible the level of downright braindead stupid you'd have to be to protest this. Like wtf is going on in these morons minds?

"Oh no an extremely powerful rich person is being arrested! What a travesty! Rich people are supposed to be above the law only us plebs should have to face consequences for our actions!! Let's riot people!!!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

To play the Devil's advocate: If you really believed the election was stolen, you'd sort of have to do something about it. It be a patriotic duty.

Imagine the timeline with Gore as POTUS

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What we outside fail to realize is these people live in a wholly different reality.

I haven't watched television with any ads in years. So when I go to a hotel and I'm lounging watching cable and seeing commercials it is jarring just what a different world it is from what I remember before. And for people who never left it, it isn't jarring at all. It's their normal.

Now imagine you only watched Fox or OANN. It's your very reality that's twisted all askew. It's hard to hold that against many of the MAGA crowd and speaks to just how influential misinformation campaigns can be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That's the reality with my parents. They only watch FOX News. My father had claimed to have tried watching CNN (years ago before they started veering rightwards). He said he couldn't watch their news because "they got it wrong."

Why did my father think CNN got the stories wrong? Because FOX News reported A and therefore my father assumed A was true. When CNN reported B, then my father didn't question if FOX was wrong. Instead, he just assumed that FOX was right and CNN was wrong. Since CNN was wrong about the news, my father didn't see any reason to watch them and so he stayed with FOX. People get locked in and that becomes their only source of truth.

I try to get my news from a variety of sources. This way, no one news source could mislead me. If one source reports A, but 5 others report B, then chances are the truth is closer to B. (All other things being equal like source reliability.) Of course, my father claims that I'm brainwashed by listening to many different sources instead of just FOX News. Likely because that is what FOX told him is happening with me.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Trump has been released without any travel conditions, as he is reportedly not a flight risk per the judge.

I am not sure about that part…

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He constantly has a secret service detail. He isn't a flight risk because he can't even try without being noticed.

I suppose he could run into his private jet and take off before they catch him, but I just can't see the man running very far or fast

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The judge said that former President Trump could have no contact with any witnesses in the case

ABC commenting on this being a big deal because that's basically his whole campaign team lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If what's already transpired is any measure, there's literally no way Trump can prevent himself from breaking the very, very few rules they have given him to follow in this case. It's part of why he is struggling to find new legal counsel, because very few want to represent someone who does so many self-incriminating things on the daily.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hope they're putting every protestor on a watch list. This has to be a high density of nutcases that could lose their shit at any time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

God knows how many of them are carrying guns there too. Conservatives are probably already getting ready to put the blame on "ANTIFA" if violence starts.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also prime time to find any of the J6 fuckers who've evaded arrest

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No mugshot, no handcuffs? Very disappointing, I needed those pictures to troll right wing nut jobs with.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it’s better this way. Less likely to be painted as a victim of persecution.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sad we don’t get to see his mugshot or see him in handcuffs. If only the rich were treated the same as everyone else

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm torn on the mugshot. On the one hand, I agree with your general point. On the other hand, he'll just use a mugshot to bilk money out of his marks. But on the gripping hand, last time they just photoshopped a mugshot, so does it really matter if he has a real one?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mugshot will not be made public

But it will be made. Wonder who gets that honor.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm sure that the people showing up in jail outfit cosplay will be entirely well behaved individuals...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

How anyone still supports this dude is beyond me. The horrible shit he's put a lot of people through for his own gain is pretty astounding. I'm amazed he can even find a lawyer at this point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did the guy in the prison costume get arrested? I’d say that’s irony if it weren’t in the midst of this circus.

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