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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Conservatives are mustache-twisting, Snidely Whiplash levels of evil. Except their goal isn't to murder and rob a woman they've tied to the railroad tracks. Their goal is to murder and rob everyone on planet earth.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, not only are these psychotic maniacs unwilling to take even the most conservative actions to stem the tide of global climate change, but they are gleefully seeking to bring about the end of humanity as soon as possible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

American conservatives and fundamentalists are heavily invested into an “End of Days” mythos – not only are they not avoiding it, they are eagerly trying to accelerate the apocalypse

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am conservative leaning and I think this is reprehensible. These people are mentally ill.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

There's a big difference between "conservative" and the US republican party. The DNC would be considered conservative in much of the western world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Conservatives will be the end of modern industrial society as we know it. And once things get bad enough I have absolutely no doubt they will blame everything that goes wrong on "leftists" (ie. anyone left of the Strasserites), right-wing terrorism will escalate and half the people will actually either outright support them or at least accept it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only thing you can really do is to get involved in stopping them. If you're in the US, that means looking up close house and senate races. Pick one or two close to you, and then support Democrats running in them with both volunteer time and money.

Leave a bit on the table for supporting Biden as well

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm Finnish so I'm lucky in the sense that we have more than two options when picking a political party, and eg. I vote for a democratic socialist party called the Left Alliance.

On the unfortunate flipside half the country is very conservative compared to the rest of the Nordics, and our new government – who got in power by lying ceaselessly about the previous lefist government (first of its kind in almost 20 years if not more) and what exactly led to eg. our healthcare system collapsing (pro tip: it wasn't leftists, but our "fiscal" conservatives cutting funding) – has literal neo-Nazis, and the ones who aren't outright Nazis are so right wing that you wouldn't really know the difference. So bigotry is now the norm (up to and including MPs and ministers having publicly fantasized about murdering leftists, immigrants and/or gay people) and our new Minister of the Environment is a climate change denialist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Conservative is a misnomer, really. They don't want to conserve anything. They are trying as hard as they can to wreck it all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Too late, fortunately - the wheels of commerce are already in motion, by 2025 the mass market charger + EV rollout will be in full swing (and, itself, sending a lot of money towards grid + generation improvements) and beyond the power of Republicans to stop.

Not to mention, of course, that Republicans in states with a lot of clean energy jobs - and there are a ton of those - are going to be under tremendous pressure to oppose anything that would take them away, even if they voted against them originally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Those jobs aren't stopping them yet — it takes not just having people with jobs, but having the political donor class dependent on decarbonization.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

All this while the US falls behind the rest of the world in renewable energy. This could have been another moonshot. We could have led the world into a new age.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure they do - they want to conserve the social hierarchy. They want social classes, and nobles/a pyramid of individuals in charge, and they get sold the lie that this is the natural order and that they won't be at the bottom

Liberals push for a system that will handle all people and situations under the same rules, which sounds like equality (but isn't necessarily).

The right is preservation of the status quo, while the left seeks to change things.

This is far from the only sets of axises, and you can apply it to any specific area, such as economics, personal rights, foreign policy, etc

And that's why the 2 party system is terrible - neoliberals are liberal right, our conservatives are increasingly conservative. Both sides seek to keep the status quo and support increasing financial inequality, but make a big production over the fight for our personal rights.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Ancaps and minarchists are right-wing, but not for any status quo. Both are usually more liberal in terms of personal rights and economics than most left-wingers. Also usually just as pacifist, if that's what you mean by foreign policy.

(Literal fascists would also like to see certain radical changes, though in their mythology these would be called the return to good old order of things.)

And that’s why the 2 party system is terrible

It's terrible because it neuters any kind of real political diversity. Ideas converge into two bland parties, intended to be as similar in actual policy as possible so to not lose the competition for the general mass of voters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

checks book of Abrahamic myths - yes, yes they do

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They expect to be dead before the worst of it hits the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, no, they expect to be raptured.

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