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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I won't update without first creating an image of the server to roll back to. Like others on here, the web updater almost always fails and goes into maintenance mode and I have to ssh in to fix it.

Having said that, functionally, I have no issues. Only when upgrading does the whole thing shit the bed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've hosted mine for years on my own bare metal Debian/Apache install and 28 is the first update that has been a major pain. I've had the occasional need to install a new package to enable a new feature, or needed to add new/missing indices to the database, but the web interface literally tells you how to do those things, so they're not hard.

28 though broke several of the "featured" apps that I use regularly, like "Retention". It also introduced some questionable UI changes that they had to fix with the recent .1 update. I'll get occasional errors when trying to move or delete files in the web interface and everything. 28 really feels like beta software, even though we're a point release in and I got it from the "stable" update channel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I've not moved to 28 yet, might wait a bit longer from your post. My 27 is rock solid, I don't understand why so many have issues with nextcloud.

Maybe the docker installs are pants

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I can’t remember the last time I laughed this much

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Installed it in k3s and then pulled up the Android app but all it does is say every single file is a duplicate and overload my notifications tray while not uploading anything

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Nextcloud for me too, would break because of updates requiring manual DB updates sometimes, apps would randomly stop working after updating too, or the 2 times it caused total data loss on all my synced devices and the server itself which required a full restore from backups.

After getting rid of it and switching to Syncthing + Filebrowser + SFTPGo for WebDAV I haven't really had anything break since then (about a year now). Stuff also runs much faster, NC was extremely slow even on good hardware with all their recommended settings for performance.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Well dang, I have Nextcloud installed as a snap (which has been perfectly stable for me when running on Ubuntu Server), but I was thinking of switching over to a docker installation; this thread doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm for that idea...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't realize that next Cloud was so bad, might I recommend people having issues try Seafile? Also open source and I've been using it for many years without issues. It doesn't have as many features and it doesn't look as shiny but it's rock solid

Have a random meme from my instance

https://seafile.kitsuna.net/f/074ad17b12ad47e8a958/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nextcloud ist just fine. Using it since more than 7 years now with zero problems

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I'm having a hard time believing that.. There is a difference between being able to fix the update issues every time without problems or having no problems at all. But if so, neat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I haven't had any issues with Nextcloud yet. But any torrent client refuses to work. I've tried various qbittorrent containers, transmission, deluge briefly, they all work for a while but eventual refuse to do anything.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I gave up on owncloud just before it became nextcloud because it kept breaking every time I updated it.

Wallabag is similar for me now. I'm stuck on a slightly out of date version because I can't get newer ones to run. Everything else I self host is painless though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I had TOTP die for one user on my Nextcloud. I tried to disable it, but it "didn't exist". I tried to enable it, but it was already enabled. It would come up when I used occ twofactorauth:state user. I ended up fixing it by (force) disabling the app and re-enabling it. It didn't break any other user's TOTP and it fixed problem-user's TOTP. No idea what went wrong, but I get these random issues with Nextcloud sometimes.

The plus side to this is I've learnt how to use Mariadb and I've gotten better at debugging things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Paperless often randomly stops accepting new documents. I have to wait several hours or restart it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

To be honest, no. I run in a Truenas Jail, and its stable for me. Just a bit slow for big files sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Currently dealing with this nonsense,

and this accompanying nonsense:

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

For me it’s Pi-hole. For six months it runs fine, then dies so horribly I resort to snapshot rollback and we both pretend it never happened.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The snap version of nextcloud has been pretty solid for me, except for the time that I installed the nextcloud backup app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Invidious. It's to be expected for something like that though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wish there were an alternative in a sane programming language that I could actually contribute to. For some reason PHP is extremely sparse in its logging and errors mostly only pop up on the frontend. Having to debug errors after an update and following some guide to edit a file in the live env that sets a debugging variable, puts the system in maintenance mode and stores additional state in the DB is scary.

Plus PHP is so friggin slow. Nextcloud takes noticeable time to load nearly anything. Even instances hosted by pros that only host nextcloud are just slow.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

You could check out Frappe Drive (and Frappe, the framework it's built on, it's pretty awesome). They aren't accepting contributions at the moment but I'm sure that'll change once it's out of beta like with the other frappe apps. There's also Raven messenger also built on Frappe and you can use the two together (but without any real integration between the two yet, but that's on the roadmap on the Raven side).

I've spent a lot of time researching alternatives and NextCloud is the only one that does everything it does in one place. I've dug into the code a lot to find places to make it work faster and came out confused and mostly empty. It's also federated, and I think it's the only FOSS file sharing platform that is. It''s a very mature application so you'll be hard pressed to find features that are missing, but also to find things that could be further optimized without ripping out major chunks of the application which are likely interconnected with other major chunks of the application. For my personal use NextCloud instance I've resorted to just completely deleting the database and installing everything fresh between major versions, then just rescanning my local folder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m not self hosting an instance, but kbin is super fucking broken lately and it’s getting really frustrating. It’s been about a week. I submitted a ticket in their Git repo, but no response.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

The most-recent release of lemmy dicked up outbound federation pretty badly on the instance I use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The very same reason why I gave up on Nextcloud. Too many nasty surprises.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Bad stories about nextcloud scare me 😂 I hope Im not gonna jinx myself, but my nextcloud runs super stable for almost a year. I get some errors while updating, but service doesnt stop working and its usually simple fix by following the message it shows.

I removed apps that I dont use (most of them) and web ui became super fast on my budget server

Actually all services are so smooth and almost no issues, maybe beginner luck 😉

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