A bot that posts sports team scores to a sports community? Sure, I guess. A bot that reports popular reddit posts? No way.
Some content bots make sense, but in a very narrow scope.
this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2023
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While I see the merit, I digress, I don't think any bots should be allowed for non-admin users.
I also want less bot posts in my communities, but what's wrong about a bot that posts sports team scores to a sports community?
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L4s, who I believe is a bot, posts to this community regularly.
Assuming the content is generally high quality I don't have a problem with it.
If it's bad, the community votes it away, if it's good, the community votes it higher.
The core of social media in my view is the discussion, we can have a discussion even if a bot posts the discussion topic.
We should set rules, sure, but I don't have a problem with bots inherently.
I can't stand L4s. Being provided content from a bot is not engaging at all. I'm tired of seeing the majority of post generated by L4s.
There is a poll that I think is still running to vote about whether to keep the bot or not: !https://lemmy.world/post/1794808
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I can understand this take; I realize it probably boils down to personal preference, but seeing the mod bot with 2 of the top posts of the last 6 hours just feels like a bad look for a community to me. It's stated purpose:
I’m a bot designed to increase content created on Lemmy, to try and jump-start communities, and make Lemmy overall a more enjoyable place
This is a relatively active community, and I don't think it really needs to be "jump started" anymore. Let humans post the content. That's what I want to see and engage with. I still think there is a place for bot posts, but with a much more limited scope (episode discussion threads, sports scores as was mentioned elsewhere, etc.). Nothing turns me off a community faster than seeing half the top post from a bot.
As a thought, I wonder how you'd feel if the bot account wasn't clearly identified as a bot.
Using Voyager (wefwef) I can't tell. So to me it's just another account. It's not in my face, it isn't obvious, and most of the time I have no idea who posted anything. I see the title, I vote accordingly (or just move on), if it's interesting I look at the comments.
To be clear bot accounts should 100% identify themselves as bots, but I wonder if making it too obvious is making them stand out too much.
(And of course if I saw "Bot" everywhere I might have a different opinion.)
What's an L4?
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You can just hide posts from bots if you do not like them. Settings -> Uncheck "Show Bot Accounts." I'm not sure what the point of this post is.
Some people find use out of them, hence bots being allowed here with an option to easily hide them.
Also, OC is not the cream of the crop. There's plenty of terrible posts out there written by humans, as demonstrated by many folks on this platform. I can say that I occasionally get more use out of a bot's post than a human's post.
Surely you understand that "disallowed" and "federated" are mutually exclusive, no?
Block and move on. Maybe pick an instance that doesn't allow them. If they're useless then it won't make much of a difference.
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I don't think it's a narrow scope at all, it just shouldn't infringe on the territory of users
Launch alerts, RSS feeds, version releases, a of interesting communities could be based around bot posts.
Not reposts for sure though, and if we're going to do stuff like pipedbot I'd prefer it be summoned. But in general it'd be fun if we made them weird and creative, but they should be doing things only bots can do
Two examples of bots I have found helpful in the past:
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A bot that takes book names and gives the description and author (and maybe a link to goodreads or other)
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a bot that takes Lego numbers people posts and gives the name and link
- a bot that redorects youtube to piped
The bot that can set reminders (though I don't know if it worked)
the one that tells you if your comment is in alphabetical order
The bot that ranked other bots
Wasn't there an xkcd-ass bot?
The tldr bots were awesome
A bot that masquerades as a regular user and posts paid marketing content once a month
A bot that posts political articles with tailored sensational/biased headlines
A bot that records all activity on an instance and creates a topological graph of the activity tied to users and the content they interact with
A bot that posts a picture of cat, a picture that anyone can fucking google or something that nobody needs or asked for
Who fucking cares if you can come up with harmless "good" uses for bots.. they always come with the bad.
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As long as it isn't the shakespeare bot, it's negotiable
Lemmy has a setting to hide bot posts
Account settings > disable "show bot accounts"
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I have yet to come across a bot I truly appreciate and find indispensable, here or on FuckSpez.com
This is why ChatGPT is falling behind now. It never had original content to reference, it only spewed previously posted content. And now it has begun to reference its own AI content, so a growing percentage of its responses is becoming meta-garbage
This is not even remotely accurate.
If that were the case they would just revert to the old version, it doesn’t need to be constantly trained.
Given that the API version hasn’t changed, it’s most likely the just scaled down the compute allocated to the free chat version.
I agree that original content is the cream we need, but we shouldn’t throw out the rest of the milk while we’re still hungry (for content).
Outside of mod tools pretty much no reason for them.
That's my understanding as well, I think a hardline on this topic that can be agreed upon as a federation standard will work wonders to curb potential spam and bot abuse in the future.
L4s (the main content posting bot) is run by the admin of the community tho. Also there's a post with a poll about the bot: !lemmy.world/post/1794808
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Your opinion is bad
I didn't know about that option for at least a couple weeks after I signed up to Lemmy, maybe they just aren't aware of that option yet.
Well good news then, that's not the goal and there isn't really a single goal beyond decentralization and interoperability. Neither of which bots affect.
If you want an instance without bots you can find one or start your own.
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