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New technology (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Haha, there's still things embedded deep in code and in CPUs that go way back to the 80s. If only y'all knew. It's all shit built on top of older shit, built on top of even older shit with kludges and hacks to glue it all together. Know why Windows has five different ways to access the same setting? Because if they get rid of the older methods, they break a ton of other shit that depends on it too. A house of cards or a Jenga tower.

A modern PC can STILL natively boot a DOS floppy from 1986 in legacy BIOS mode because of this.

Theres also examples in the corporate world where some companies are STILL running 70s mainframes, and use shiny new PCs as front end terminals that just connect to the same old backend.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The control panel peaked at windows 7 though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

everything Windows peaked with Windows 7.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Imma gonna stop you there and say the peak was Windows 2000.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seriously, each new windows update just adds a fresh new coat of paint on top, as if to make finding the actually useful win 7 and xp menus, that are still there, harder.

Linux Mint feels to me like what windows 10/11 should've been

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is super interesting and I had NO IDEA! Makes me very curious how much more efficient an entire fresh start might be with new tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I can't even think of any recent CPUs that aren't based on previous designs. Even Apple's new M1 is an ARM derivative, which itself is based on an ancient computer from the 80s known as the "Acorn".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

New York be like:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not That Fresh System

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

New? Still can't read ext4 fs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Never name anything with "New" in the name, it will look silly after a few years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Neanderthal Technology File System

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's newer than FAT (1977)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, new technology because it was the file system for Windows NT, which originally stood for.... Windows New Technology.

Later Microsoft decided to just use NT as a moniker without any indication of it's origins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

how dare you bring this common sense to the guffahery!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Me and my mates used to say it was short for "Not Tested". Oh, how we laughed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey! 30 isn't that old... Right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But they change UI design every time Bill farts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Join Ext4!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or APFS

It’s open source too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why didn't they still not roll it out for general userbase?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They did.

It’s up to OS developers to implement it or not on their OSes

I use libsfapfs on Linux, but as always when Apple does anything open source, the Linux community hates it

Darwin WebKit Swift and its compiler APFS ALAC …

The only widely used open source project from Apple that I know is CUPS

The only things in macOS that are not open source are related to its GUI.

But you know… Apple bad as usual

As a developer, most of Linux users I know develop in Java and dual-boot on Windows to play games.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ReFS is a thing, but apparently not intended as a replacement (?)

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/refs/refs-overview

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apparently Microsoft is going to move win 11 to refs but idk when. For all we know it might be in windows 12 only

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was new at the time. Anyway, what is the best file system to use nowadays? zfs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ZFS is brilliant and all, as long as you only add disks, too bad if you want to rearrange your disks, you have to buy a new set of disks and move the data.

Btrfs is much better for home use, combine your old 3, 4 and 8tb disks into one, buy a new 16tb disk you add it and remove the 3tb disk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think zfs is very popular with the honeserver crowd, but its not worth the hassle for desktop use. If you want something more fancy than ext4 there is btrfs which lets you take snapshots and checksums the data to detect corruption

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it's still way better than Dat, but incredibly incompatible with a lot of things still and new usb drives are always FAT. Shame ntfs didn't catch on more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

External storage is always FAT, because everything can read FAT, so it just makes life easier for file transfers.

Not because NTFS/ext4/etc doesnt work on usb sticks.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

The hardest problem in computer science is naming things. And counting things.