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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (24 children)

A reminder to move to smaller instances for a better experience

A reminder that this constant advice people blindly parrot to install and flock to smaller instance has now created something like 1000 new servers in 50 days that are poorly run and already going offline as quickly as they went online.

Github Issue 2910 is the kind of PostgreSQL problems that the developers ignored for months and people still defend the developer choices to have the code doing real-time counting of every single comment and post for numbers nobody needs to needs done in real-time.

PostgreSQL is voodoo to this project, they do everything they can to avoid going to [email protected] community and asking for help, learning 101 about how to fix their SQL TRIGGER logic like Github Issue 2910 spelled out June 4.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I know you are salty about how you are getting treated over at GitHub, but you should look at it objectively, Blaze is clearly advocating that people join top instances that's not lemmy.world or lemmy.ml, not nobody instances that only have 1-2 users. They certainly aren't going offline as quickly as they come online.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (19 children)

A reminder that this constant advice people blindly parrot to install and flock to smaller instance has now created something like 1000 new servers in 50 days that are poorly run and already going offline as quickly as they went online.

I am always advocating for any of the top 25 instances that are not Lemmy.world or Lemmy.ml

For the rest of your post, I don't know what that has to do with people aggreating on LW.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The response to you being basically "Not small-small, just smaller," is a great example of why people don't want to leave established sites for this kinda fediverse nonsense.

"It doesn't matter what instance you use!" Turns into, "Well, you chose the wrong instance," when the one you went with went down for any reason. Maybe you chose one that was too big (or got too big after you chose it). Maybe you chose one that was too small. Maybe you chose one where the admin was just not committed to running it and gave up after some time. There's a whole list of reasons why instances will have problems or fail or whatever.

Most people don't want to play this game.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Lemmy.one, my instance of choice, has been down since Thursday - just a reminder that smaller instance isn't always the solution. Having a few solid account choices on multiple instances is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a bit frustrating though. If I didn’t know better about the fediverse, I would’ve thought Lemmy in general was down, with no heads up or somewhere to see what’s going on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Does anyone know why?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a few for this reason. Is there, or perhaps will there be a way for subscriptions to the shared across accounts?

Maybe this is already I thing and I’m oblivious.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I haven't had a chance to try it yet but here is this:

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (15 children)

You can also just have multiple accounts. I have one on lemm.ee just for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's funny, at this point I don't feel like I even have a main account. I just randomly pick an instance every time I go Lemmying

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Quoting myself from a previous post:

First of all, it's really fine to stay on LW for now, no need to rush anything. But if at some point you have some time for this, then read the following.

So, to pick your instance, you can have a look at https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list, filter by "1m" to see what are the most popular ones. As you can see, with a 27433 monthly users, Lemmy.world is by far the most popular, which is why you might experience some issues from time to time.

You should have a look at the next instances on the list. Short story: lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.one, sopuli.xyz and reddthat.com are solid choices.

You are looking at instances with quite a lot of people (the more people help with filling your "All" feed), just not the most populous one (lemmy.world), the original one (lemmy.ml), and instances that are too specific, either due to country or specific focus.

Long story:

spoiler

  • lemmy.ml is the original insance, also quite crowded, not really the best choice
  • lemm.ee can be nice, you can have a look at it and see how fast it is for you. The admin communicates a lot and is very helpful.
  • sh.itjust.works had some rough time in the last few days. You might also not like the name, that's okay.
  • beehaw.org does not federate with the big instances, so if you go there, you will be in their own space. It can a valid choice, but please have a look at their guidelines first, they tend to moderate a lot. Can work for you, or not.
  • feddit.de, lemmy.ca, discuss.tchncs.de, feddit.uk, aussie.zone are country specific instances, so probably not interesting to you if you are not from there
  • lemmynsfw is a NSFW instance, probably not the one you want to move to
  • programming.dev is an instance focused on programming
  • lemmy.blahaj.zone is a pro queer instance

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To migrate your settings (including subscriptions and blocked instances), you can use that script: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are 63 instances according to Jerboa.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Do note that this doesn't actually account for an accurate total of Lemmy instances across the Fediverse. It is a hardcoded list of instances.

Edit: Correction, its a generated list of instances (that gets copied into Jerboa) that have a MAU amount of more than 50 as pointed out below.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That list gets generated based on the lemmy instances tracked by fediverse.observer site that have a monthly active user amount greater than 50.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The DB migration at the end of this upgrade is significant, I was surprised how long it took when I upgraded my instance. Lots of room for things to go wrong considering the size of their DB.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course I have one or two other accounts, but I personally like Lemmy.world. They serve as a necessary stress test that shows the devs and admins how to optimize further, and I just like learning admin practices at this scale of a userbase from a work perspective. Plus I don't want to be on an instance so small they can't or don't know how to handle compliance stuff and evaporate if something like that comes up. Not saying I know how to handle all of those situations, that's the job of someone else at work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that's one of the issues that the rest of the instances are facing to appear as trustful as LW. LW admins have a long established reputation and experience managing Fediverse services, and provide very good transparency and a large team.

Other instances are usually nowhere close to that (some will be in the future I hope). The question I usually raise when someone start promoting their instance is "how many admins do you have?´What happens if you run under a bus tomorrow (hopefully you'll stay safe of course)? Is there a back up plan in place?"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemm.ee is amazing with a top admin

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Smaller instances are usually worse, in my experience

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said that in a support post on lemmy.world, and got accused of pushing an agenda 🙃

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