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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how much of the emissions are caused by the ongoing wars. I suspect that manufacturing weapons and the destruction would create significant emissions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well considering there are study’s going over this just have to google some and the US military does not report its C02 emissions it’s not required too it doesn’t even follow international laws because we are not a signatory but if we did include are military co2 emission we would be the “single biggest institutional consumer of hydrocarbons on the planet.” And that is a quote from the study. We also use 270,000 barrels of oil a day for are military.

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 7 months ago

I imagine death is probably a bigger concern

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It will make many uncomfortable to say it, but the hero in this story is China. If we didn't have their industrial might making solar cheap, then this wouldn't be happening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

True, but they've already been a big reason that co2 emissions have been rising so much

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

China did the same thing the US did in the 50s. They went all-in on industrialization and building their economy, pollution be damned. And like the US, once they got on their feet, they dialed the pollution way down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

They should have peaked 50+ years ago when we first realized it was fucking up our atmosphere. Instead wealthy oil companies covered it up and lied to everyone for decades so they could keep becoming wealthier and wealthier no matter what the cost.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago… second best time is now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

True, but absolutely pointless to discuss as we can't change the past. Time to act is now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We're basically being bailed out by luck. Renewable electricity has gotten cheap; it didn't have to. If that hadn't of happened we'd probably be doing business as usual and accelerating into catastrophe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have bad news for you: We're still accelerating into catastrophe, just not quite as fast as we otherwise would've been. We need to keep trying of course, but we still have a very long way to go before we can even think about considering ourselves in the clear.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I haven’t even begun to peak

- Global emissions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The problem in my mind is that all the solar panels and wind turbines are being built with fossil fuels, causing even more demand which the oil companies are only happy to fulfil. We need to reduce the amount of energy we use somehow, whilst still maintaining our level of civilisation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That's not going to happen