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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just sad with the lack of support. Just tired of fighting for existence. Stochastic terrorists win again should not be in another headline I have to read again in my life. Hugs to all of you out there fighting through headlines like these.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

In the Thursday working session, Representative Matt Moonen stated that some of the language in the bill that has come under attack “did not further the goals” intended of the bill and moved that the bill “ought not to pass,” essentially recommending that his own bill be killed in committee.

This doesn't sounds like a dead issue. It sounds like the bill had some potential problems and they want to touch it up before sending it to the floor to be passed. Maine can still get its trans refuge state status. Not that that is going to stop the right-wing from lying about it, of course.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"we care about you!..... As long as it's not inconvenient..."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"But you'll vote for us anyway, lol. "

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

"We aren't killing you but we're not particularly worried about them killing you.... Vote for us!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

...and if you don't, it's Russia's fault. /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This kinda stuff I think about when people say. Just vote blue.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Well voting red is definitely not going to be better, and not voting or throwing my vote away to a third party is the same as voting red.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Voting for a third party is simultaneously voting blue and red, if you listen to the blues they tell you it's a red vote while the reds are in your other ear complaining you just voted blue. The fact that it pisses off both the republicans and the democrats frankly is an indication that I have made the correct decision.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It should be the correct decision, but when the realistic options are maintaining the (lukewarm at best) status quo and genocide we kinda dont get to make the correct decision unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Well if you listen to everyone, the choices are genocide or genocide, so I suppose you're free to pick which genocide you'd prefer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Gia Drew, Executive Director of Equality Maine, stated in an interview with Erin In The Morning that the bill was “probably not the right fit” for Maine and that “the climate has changed” over the issue, pointing to some of the complexities within the bill as well as outside disinformation attacks. When asked why the bill wasn’t amended to make it a better fit, she stated that she did not know why that route was not chosen.

Drew did express hope, however, for future versions of the legislation and pointed to prior successes, stating, “We were able to pass one of the most historic laws last year in that same committee.” The state had previously passed a law that allowed trans youth above the age of 16 to consent to gender affirming care without parental approval.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Politics is similar to the ecological structure and development of a forest. You begin with grasses which shield fledgling shrubs from the elements. The shrubs eventually push out the grass and make way for trees that push out the shrubs and then trees that push out the earlier trees. Then fire and flooding that brings you back to step 2.5. Focus on trees after you slit the stem of every single shrub and hope fire doesn’t set you back after.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Fire is actually beneficial to forests. It burns away the grass so fast growing tree saplings can grow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In a vacuum, absolutely. With human meddling inadvertently causing hotter, longer, broader, and more frequent fires, natural fires can cause a full or partial reset more frequently. Except in aus. Eucalyptus is future-proof. Just like politics, ecology finds people are the problem.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This such a white western take. Indigenous peoples all around the world have been using fire to benefit ecology. People are not the problem. White fascist, colonial actions and ideals are the issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like your point would be more poignant without the racism but I agree?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah cause reverse racism exists and talking about the history of the world and how your view point is clearly skewed by racism colonialism and white fascism is totally racism in of itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of a conversation I had a decade ago about “reverse rape.” It’s just rape. Academic study of racism hasn’t made “power+prejudice” the de facto definition and, as a result, it’s ostensibly racist to say “white western take.” I say this, once again, while agreeing with you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can't be racist towards white people sry. Nice job bringing up rape tho

[–] BumpingFuglies 1 points 8 months ago

Just came across this post randomly, and I've gotta commend you on the dryness of your wit. Saying something so patently absurd and hypocritical as

You can't be racist against white people

while keeping a straight face. Quality comedy.

Or you're just a racist piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think I’m just gonna leave you be, internet stranger. Good luck with… whatever this was meant to be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Link to dodge the paywall: https://web.archive.org/web/20240126180442/https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/democrats-vote-down-trans-refuge

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Erin In The Morning Read in the Substack app Open app Discover more from Erin In The Morning News and discussion on trans legislation and life. Over 47,000 subscribers Continue reading Sign in Democrats Vote Down Trans Refuge Bill In Maine After Right-Wing Attacks Maine's Judiciary Committee voted down House Bill 1735, a shield law for transgender people fleeing other anti-trans state laws, after the cosponsor asked for his own bill not to pass. Erin Reed Jan 26, 2024 49 11

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On Thursday afternoon, Maine’s Judiciary Committee, controlled by Democrats, voted down House Bill 1735, a bill that would establish Maine as a refuge state for transgender people obtaining care across state lines. The vote to kill the bill came after a relentless social media campaign from leading national anti-trans activists targeting Democrats on the committee with disinformation about what the bill would do. In the Thursday working session, Representative Matt Moonen stated that some of the language in the bill that has come under attack “did not further the goals” intended of the bill and moved that the bill “ought not to pass,” essentially recommending that his own bill be killed in committee.

The bill included several provisions aimed at protecting transgender individuals who travel to Maine for their care. Some provisions shielded patients and providers from investigations by other states, such as those currently being led by AG Ken Paxton of Texas, who is subpoenaing hospitals across state lines for medical information on trans patients. Other sections designated the arrest and extradition of transgender individuals and their providers to other states for “crimes” around obtaining care as a "lowest priority" for law enforcement. However, the section of the bill that garnered the most media attention was the one protecting abused and neglected transgender youth. It proposed allowing judges jurisdiction over cases involving their presence in the state and also included measures to protect parents in custody disputes where one parent consents to the child receiving care and the other does not.

This sparked an intense pressure campaign from prominent anti-trans social media influencers and organizations, targeting the committee members. They received an overwhelming number of emails and phone calls, spurred by calls to action from far-right media. Libs of TikTok, known for posts frequently followed by bomb threats against LGBTQ+ individuals and allies, inaccurately claimed that the bill would "take custody of kids" from parents who oppose gender-affirming care; this post received 7 million views. Other accounts, including Riley Gaines and Chloe Cole, a political detransitioner and right-wing media figure, amplified posts labeling the bill as a "transgender trafficking bill." Meanwhile, right-wing media outlets with a history of anti-trans reporting, such as the Daily Signal and the Daily Caller, published articles echoing similar assertions.

Following the pressure campaign, a previously scheduled meeting for January 17th on the bill was postponed to January 25th. On Thursday, that hearing happened, with one of the cosponsors of the bill, Rep. Moonen, stating that despite the bill’s protections, it “ought not to pass” because there was language in the bill that “is not needed” to accomplish the goals of protecting patients and providers from out of state prosecutions. The committee then voted the bill down 12-0.

See the moment from the hearing here:

Following the hearing, large anti-trans accounts and publications praised the outcome. Meanwhile, local news media questioned local LGBTQ+ organizations on the result. Gia Drew, executive director of Equality Maine, said in an interview with the Maine Morning Star that she “expects the goals behind the proposal to be revisited,” stating that the bill was a “complex issue.” She also noted that voting down the bill would not change access for people in Maine and that this was “not the end,” adding that she expects the goals of the proposal to be revisited.

Maine rejecting the bill after putting it up for a vote is significant. Currently, 14 states and the District of Columbia have approved similar protections for transgender people seeking care across state lines. Maine may be the first state with both a Democratic governor and legislature to strike down such a bill, and the second state in the region to see puzzling votes from Democrats over transgender rights. Earlier this year, a handful of New Hampshire Democrats joined Republicans in passing a bill that could restrict bathroom access in the state, a move that raised similar questions over the commitment of State Democrats towards protecting their transgender citizens.

You can see a list of refuge states here: Trans Refuge Laws, source: Movement Advancement Project

Gia Drew, Executive Director of Equality Maine, stated in an interview with Erin In The Morning that the bill was “probably not the right fit” for Maine and that “the climate has changed” over the issue, pointing to some of the complexities within the bill as well as outside disinformation attacks. When asked why the bill wasn’t amended to make it a better fit, she stated that she did not know why that route was not chosen.

Drew did express hope, however, for future versions of the legislation and pointed to prior successes, stating, “We were able to pass one of the most historic laws last year in that same committee.” The state had previously passed a law that allowed trans youth above the age of 16 to consent to gender affirming care without parental approval.

Future legislation on this issue is uncertain. There is no other pending legislation in the state establishing it as a refuge for transgender people.

The offices of Representative Matt Moonen and Senator Ann Carney were contacted for comment. Comments will be provided should they be received.

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“Oh no republicans are lying and being mean to me online, time to fold and give them exactly what they want”

Sigh. I hope they revisit this immediately Like (16) Reply Share

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