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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

We are getting Cloud Backups in the future! Currently, there are two tiers planned:

The free tier offers:

  • 30 days of media backup
  • ??? GB of storage

The paid ($3 / mo) tier offers:

  • media & text backup forever
  • 1TB of storage Both tiers' features and the pricing of the paid plan are still subject to change

What do you think about this?

Sources: SignalUpdateInfo

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

From the website, thought this would be good to call out: "Signal Update Info is not affiliated with Signal and is not an official Signal website."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

oh, that's very important to know

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes you are right but the website links github commits as sources

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Can someone explain use case for me? I assume it's for folks who don't autodelete messages and want the encryption and non-spying but the same chat 'archive' of other apps like FB Messenger, WhatsApp, etc.?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Pretty much yea

I'd like to have this replace messenger/WhatsApp/etc. for as many people as possible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Like if you drop your phone and it gets run over by a truck, you can buy a new phone and have all of your chat history still.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Your link is broken, here's the working link

https://signalupdateinfo.com/news/cloud-backups.html

EDIT: OP fixed it :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry. You are right. Does it work now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It does 👌

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They are exactly the same and I can open them both 🤷🏼

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You link markdown is backward

[https://signalupdateinfo.com/news/cloud-backups.html](SignalUpdateInfo)

should be

[SignalUpdateInfo](https://signalupdateinfo.com/news/cloud-backups.html)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It might be your app / front end rendering the link text correctly, while for others it doesn't work

Correct formatting: [Text](URL)

So you want: [signalupdateinfo](https://signalupdateinfo.com/news/cloud-backups.html)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes it seems like Thunder for some reason does it that way

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think SyncThing is free. I'm not paying for 12 different clouds where each one I use 1% of the alotted storage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then just use the free tier

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't sound like any of those prices are final.

Regardless, why keep my data on some servers I don't control when there's a perfectly good local solution?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

First of all: there will definitely be a free tier. The only thing not final is storage and media backup.

Second: local backup will most likely still be an option.

Why do people always hate on new features? Just don't use them if you don't want to

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

First of all: there will definitely be a free tier.

Where did you see that confirmed?

Second: local backup will most likely still be an option.

Uhhhh I mean I would assume?

Why do people always hate on new features? Just don't use them if you don't want to

No one is "hating" on this. We're just asking legitimate questions that any other consumer might ask, and suggesting existing solutions for those who don't want to wait 7 years for Signal to eventually implement this feature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My bad... It wasn't supposed to sound that aggressive.

And to be honest: there is no confirmation for a free tier but I strongly believe (and hope) so because most people nowadays assume everything to be free and if they see Signal not having a free backup plan everyone would go

aAhHhHHHhH they are so greedy i thought they are a non-profit.

(I mean people who don't care about privacy and only use signal because their privay-aware friends told them to)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Time to leave, then.

I'd have welcomed an interface to a cloud of my choice. But yet another cloud entity hosted somewhere outside of my reach? Meh.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

No i think you misunderstood. Local backups (as we have them now) will (most likely) stay.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yaaaay, that's the last big thing I was looking for

Wow 1TB is a lot of storage. I think my backups are ~1Gb so it might be nice to have some tiers in the middle for those on a budget. At the same time, a lot of those media files are gifs and memes 😄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I send a lot of voice and video messages to friends and family. I think it was about 10GB when I did a transfer to a new phone last year, so I'm glad there are larger storage options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think in your (and most other) case(s) the free tier would be just fine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yea that's the hope, I might add in a donation if that's the case

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I'm hovering at ~9GB at the moment. 🥲

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Good, this is a must feature for messaging app nowadays.