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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The comms on this have been an absolute nightmare and that's honestly more worrying to me than whether it's £28 billion or £18 billion, or an aspiration, or a ceiling, or whatever.

Get it together! You're meant to be a government-in-waiting!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Labour really need to give some clarity. I get they want to keep their cards close until nearer the election, but the messaging so far seems frustratingly wishy washy. A political narrative still needs a sound foundation to build on.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh dear Frank. Are you finally losing faith in Keir's Labour?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have the same view I always have. The comms are bad. This has been the case for a century, bar the era known as the Mandelson Hegemony and the still briefer era known to historians as Mandelson Redux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mandelson

Ah yes Cash for Honours Mandelson. What a decent, upstanding fellow. You strike me as a Champaign Socialist Frank. A man who's never sene true hardship.

To you "crushing orphans" is just words on a screen. To me it's loved ones dying. You need to feel true misery to understand my heart and the hearts of real left wingers like me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I take it you're the one true Scotsman?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Keir Starmer has said Labour’s policy pledge to spend £28bn a year on green investment is “desperately needed,” as he re-opened an issue that has become a source of tension in the party.

The Labour leader said in an interview with Times Radio that he had been “unwavering” in relation to the party’s green energy plans and denied he was “scaling back” policies as this year’s general election looms.

Zoë Billingham, the director of the IPPR North thinktank, said on X after Starmer’s comments emerged: “It’s reassuring that ⁦@UKLabour have recommitted to their £28bn green investment pledge.

Opposition to watering down the £28bn commitment has come from across the spectrum, uniting Labour MPs from the party’s left with others in the centre, while business leaders have also thrown their weight behind it.

They included Jürgen Maier, the former UK head of Siemens, the German industrial giant and major investor, who said last week that the proposed investment of £28bn a year in the low-carbon economy was an “absolute minimum”.

But they added that the party would in effect cut its green ambitions by about two-thirds, given that the previously announced schemes are set to cost just under £10bn a year by the end of the parliament.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

And now after the leaking of dropping the pledge has bombed..... it's back! 😁

I'm glad he's rethinking it, it would have been desperately sad to have dropped it. But this is how politics work these days in the UK. Leak a policy, deny it, quietly gauge public opinion, revise policy. It's the only way you can test the waters it seems.