Would you prefer:
“Firefox Updater
This app is preventing shutdown”
this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2024
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You shut your PC down?
Yeah, no reason not to. Takes only a couple of seconds to boot, and everything is reset to a clean state.
I started using Windows 11 in December 2023 and tried to just use sleep. My 🔋 drained fast while my 💻 was on sleep. I expected it. AMD and Intel processors generally aren't as efficient as the Apple M soc.
While it was on sleep, there were times it suddenly needed to restart.
I once had a blue screen of death too.
So now, I shut it down most of the time. Windows 11 boot-ups and shutdowns are surprisingly fast. :)
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I got a X570 board with the really loud fan.
Instead of sleep mode, I think they meant.
My laptop won't charge from USB-C if the battery fully dies, so I shut it down to prevent that.
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The better approach would be to prepare the update in the background and swap out the version on the next start
Isn't that what it does? That's how it works on macOS, and I get prompted to restart on Linux when I install updates in the background.
I'm on Windows and I don't recall the last time I was inconvenienced by a Firefox update. Like... I can't even remember what it actually does. OP must be running it on a potato or something.
I think they mean when you go to open Firefox (when it updates) it immediately closes and reopens the first time? At least mine does that.
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Yeah and it only takes seconds on a decent PC.
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Go to options. Scroll halfway down the page. Firefox gives you the choice to change updates from automatic to whenever you want.
I disagree. Software not terminating immediately is grounds for uninstallation. It should update silently while it runs.
Ubuntu has an even better approach. It updates silently while you are using it. Then your tab crashes. And when you retry it tells you to restart firefox. Truly genius *cheffs kiss
As an Arch user. I wanted to use Arch at work too. Well, they want me to use Kubuntu (or any other prefered Ubuntu, but I like KDE so I do what every other dev uses)... except for Home Office ofc. Arch.
Still. I hate this stupid update thing. Suddenly I get 20 notifications of KDE system wanting a reboot because of updates and Firefox doing exactly this.
The worst. When I open a new tab by middleclicking a link, the tab crashes. I restart Firefox and the new Tab is gone forever. Sometimes its easy to get what I saw but not always.
How else would you know it was doing anything?
chef's* kiss
You guys close your browser? Weird
Well yeah, about every 4 weeks when Firefox gets updated.
I'm not really hankering for that 4 seconds it takes to restart.
It matters more when you clear history and cookies automatically at close. You lose your entire session.
Then... don't do that? You can clear history and cookies manually really easily, so if you restart your browser less often than Firefox releases updates (every 4 weeks), you're just opening yourself up to hacks by running an insecure browser.
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huh? at least on windows, firefox just uses its background maintenance service to take care of updates. no admin needed. I don't even notice when it happens, except for the occasional "what's new" page that opens along with firefox.
There is a comment below where someone posted a picture of the settings. Clearly it is insanely easy to make Firefox update in whatever way you want: automatic, manually, automatically in the background.
OP completely ignored facts and only wants their moment to stand on a soap box with their stupid and lazy complaint.
I don't think I've ever noticed Firefox updating. The only sign I get that it updates is that when it does a special tab opens telling me about the new features.
This is what I hate on school computers, and it drives people away from Firefox.
You don't have admin privilege, you can't update, so don't even try.
I always disable auto-updates on those.
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Just use a a package manager
Applications updating themselves... must be a Windows thing. Didn't they want to copy package management from Linux? Maybe AI can help.
My issue with FF's auto update is that the behavior is how painfully the auto-update works with multiple profiles.
I'll have one window (well three) open for some (measurable in days) time.
- FF updates silently, I haven't restarted my browser so I haven't noticed.
- I go to open a session in the second (or third profiles)
- FF decides now is a great time to apply the update, after all it just opened right?
- All the existing open browsing sessions in the other profiles get bricked. The tabs just stop responding, no browsing works, just dead in the water.
I have to shut it (all?) down to get it working again.
I don't know how Chrome handles this so I cannot compare. TBH still worth using FF over that adware!
I imagine for security best practices, software prefers update on open (if not update on checking a central update server regularly like yum -whatever update), but for user convenience this would be better for so many things.
Went not just disable automatic updates? Update when you have time for it.
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