They associated the debris they found earlier to be from the sub which pretty much confirms the implosion.
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I'd definitely choose to die that way over asphyxiation or dehydration.
From what I heard they had two bottles for urine and a bag to deficate in. It would have been freezing and extremely humid inside after even a day as well.
A implosion would be way better than days cramped together suffocating and starving in a inescapable freezing stench filled coffin.
Plus imagine being the poor coast guard team that has to crack that sucker open after they finally found and raised it 🤢
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100%
100% agree here. But then again, you wouldn't catch me in a tiny enclosed space God knows how deep, no thanks. I'll look at titanic videos on youtube.
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I read the company skipped a load of safety and redundancy checks. Thats crazy...if it's true. Cutting corners to save a few bucks .
I'm not surprised due the greed that exists in the world but this should require the same level of regulation as a plane or a rocket . Not some metal cylinder with a $30 controller duct taped inside it.
They operated in international waters, so no regulation applies really. This is exactly what the less government people want - you choose of your own free will to contract with this company knowing the risks. I imagine it's similar to lots of dangerous recreation out there like the sub orbital flights. That said, I would have noped out of it based on the one article describeing the legal processes and forms you had to sign.
you choose of your own free will to contract with this company knowing the risks.
But that's just the problem with free market/small government, isn't it? You can't know the risks because there is no oversight to prove people aren't cutting corners and selling bullshit.
As long as it is more profitable for people to deceive and cut corners, they're gonna do it.
I should be free to experience as much atmospheric pressure as I want!!
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They operate in international waters but the company is based in the US and I'm sure the trip was contracted in the US as well. I'm no lawyer but I imagine that might give the government some leverage.
So, they made their ~~sea~~bed and now lie on it?
It's hard to find empathy for those guys.
Hopefully the company goes out of business and there is someone held accountable but I won't hold my breath. Its sad for the families all the same.
Sure, it's sad for the families, but I find that my empathy is better off being spent elsewhere.
Even if some employee got caught in this CEO's whims, that employee already sold his life away upon embarking on a sub made by a company whose head thinks "safety just is pure waste."
What's a waste is this CEO not surviving to regret his very words.
Now they get to organize dives to view the wreckage of the Titan. Twice the business!
It will probably go out of business declaring bankruptcy, to avoid paying any indemnification or fines for the use of emergency resources.
It's actually astounding that this company seemingly gave zero fucks and was just allowed to go through with this. Like, I assume there was some permitting/process that needed to be obtained to go dive to the Titanic. I have to write overblown safety memos at work when just dealing with simple pressurized inert gas cylinders. How did this happen? Lol I wouldn't even use a logitech wireless controller to game on my PC.
Libertarianism happened, in conjunction with a few signed waivers.
I am curious as to what the repeated knocking on ~30 minute intervals that was picked up on sonar ends up being if not from the sub.
I believe that in a previous case like this it was found to be biological -- some sort of animal noise maybe.
I was messing around with this like sub warfare simulator game a while back and I blew up a whale with a torpedo because it showed up on my sonobuoy network as an unidentified contact 😅
What game is that? Sounds cool
Similar things have happened in other underwater rescue situations and it almost always turns out to be equipment involved in the search. The sonar bouys dropped by the planes are extremely sensitive pieces of equipment.
If I had to guess, every 30 minutes or so a boat running a grid search pattern would get close enough to one of the bouys that it was able to pick up sounds from the boat. As the grid pattern took the boat further away from the bouy it wasn't able to continue to pick up the noise, and the "knocking" stopped after about 4 hours and wasn't heard again until a few days later. Then the search pattern changed, and boats started getting close to the bouys again.
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I'm just surprised Elon Musk didn't find a way to inject himself into this story somehow, like he did with the Thai cave rescue.
Wait for his next move : Sea X
Competition
I've got no love for billionaires, and obviously this story overshadowing the migrant boat sinking in Greece is infuriating, but I'm really not a fan of the glee so many people on social media are expressing at the deaths of these five people.
Also, on another note, I seriously cannot get over the fact that the late CEO of the company, Stockton Rush, has the absolute perfect team name for a minor league football team from central California.
I agree, a lot of people in threads in the fediverse are taking way too much pleasure in 5 people dying. I get not being a fan of billionaires - no one should be - but not everyone aboard was a billionaire, and even if they were it's just so incredibly callous to take joy in people dying in an accident. Have a base level of empathy for crying out loud.
Part of the reason I loved moving to Lemmy from reddit was getting away from reddit's toxicity, I hope we don't bring it with us.
Complaining about non-existing things is a new phenomenon on the internet I guess. I haven't seen a single person cheering about the billionaires' death but I've seen dozens of people complaining about people cheering about their deaths.
It's like those upvoted comments in reddit threads where people say "number of comments in this thread about XX is disgusting" and you look for those comments and cannot find any.
This is indeed an annoying reddit / internet thing. It's nothing but shit stirring.
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I think worrying about people making fun of some rich ass billionaires dying for doing something stupid, is the last hill you should choose to die on. These people made their riches and wealth by exploiting normal people like you and me.
You don't have to actively root for their deaths, but I'm certainly not shedding any tears for them experiencing the consequences of their own actions.
You don't have to actively root for their deaths, but I'm certainly not shedding any tears for them experiencing the consequences of their own actions.
That's... What he said? Lol
"I've got no love for billionaires... but the glee people have for their deaths..."
Let's leave the "if you have any scrutiny whatsoever it must mean you're on the opposite side of everything I stand for" bullshit on reddit where it belongs and actually read what people are saying.
Wouldn't say I'm dying on any hill here, only saying there are very few people whose deaths should be celebrated, and these are not those people.
Well, it's a tragic example on how capitalism really ruins things for everyone. The OceanGate drama should have been the wake up call. But it wasn't and these people are dead. And they get infinietly more media coverage than hundreds of souls lost in Pylos.
What a fucked up world we live in.
Must we do the comparisons? The sub story was simply more interesting. It's not some media conspiracy, unless the media is already controlling the upvotes on kbin lol
Yeah, this comparison is getting really strained. As the Joker once said:
Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan.” But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
A sunken ship filled with hundreds of migrants in the Mediterranean is, horrifyingly, a routine thing. It's "part of the plan." But a billionaire in a minisub possibly stranded on the Titanic? That's newsworthy. Yes, it sucks, but it's human nature and some battles are just impossible to win under the current circumstances.
Perhaps not a conspiracy, but doesn't it say something about our culture that we find it more interesting?
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The juxtaposition of a sub full if 1%ers going on a joy dive vs hundreds of people desperately trying to get to a safe land is stunning.
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