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Robert Bowers, the gunman who killed 11 worshippers and wounded six others at a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018 in the deadliest-ever attack on Jewish people in the United States, was unanimously sentenced to death by a federal jury on Wednesday.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When the government condones killing, it makes killing acceptable. We all know by now the death penalty isn't a deterrent.

We should be aiming to make killing another person a reprehensible taboo and allowing the death penalty we are actually condoning it.

Throw him in a supermax where he will be forgotten. Killing him let's him off the hook.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's really flawed logic to say that the death penalty condones or encourges murder. I also think it's designed to be the ultimate justice, not a deterrent. Here's my opinion on the matter:

Are there monsters who deserve death? Absolutely!

Is killing citizens a power we should give to the state? Never.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To me, a life in prison is far more terrifying than death. Especially if it was solitary confinement or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Following that logic we should make killing a taboo but putting a human -guilty or not- in a concrete bucket for the rest of his life not? I don't have a solution, but I know, revenge isn't justice and that is NOT the solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll always maintain that forcing someone to live with their decisions (not mistakes -- decisions... there's a difference) is way more punishment than giving them release from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The death penalty isn't about punishing criminals.

Society as a whole decides that due to a person's actions and values they can no longer qualify as a person like the rest of us. To be a person you are required to value people's lives. There is no room for choice or debate about this matter, it doesn't matter what your religion or your heritage is, if you are a person, you're required to value the life of other people.

When failure cases like this guy and Dylan roof show up, we have to judge whether or not they're capable of valuing life and if they're not then they're not people. It's that simple. And if you're not a person, your livestock and human livestock is pretty damn worthless, so you might as well slaughter them on the spot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@danhab99 @Spacebar

Problem is that there are innocent people convicted of crimes, and the death penalty assures that at least one innocent person will be killed for a crime they didn't commit.

That's a high price to pay for the supposed satisfaction of removing a psychopath from the living.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A stupidly high price requires a stupidly high bar. The bar isn't high enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There are fates worse than death. I volunteer this asshole to be the first ‘neurolink’ recipient. Then we make him drink microwaved bud light. If that doesn’t do the trick then we can go back to plan ‘A’

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just so everyone's aware, there is also a moratorium on the death penalty in Pennsylvania (where this took place). No executions have been committed since 1999 despite any sentencing since then: Wikipedia.