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[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not blahaj zone, so yeah

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The mods here also abuse their power to remove posts they disagree with that don't violate any written rules.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You mean they don't let you rules lawyer? The horror!

Lemmy.ml is right-out funny with its decisions sometimes, especially when it comes to politics. Write a couple of paragraphs of policital analysis going very much against tankie grain and use the word "muppet" once, "Deleted: Be polite". Meanwhile, people around you are throwing slurs at each other. Wisen up and avoid that and you'll get temporarily banned for "disinfo" for repeating something out loud that was written in the thread's article: No, Ukraine does not lay claim to the Russian territories it officially describes as "historically Ukrainian-speaking". The article said so, Ukraine says so, and never said anything else either.

Rules are only as good as the mods enforcing them, it's as simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Oh no, really? That's awful...

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I run my own tiny instance so that I can feel special. And so that I can overspend on cloud infrastructure and stress out about uptime.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

beautiful human being

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How does federation work with hosting your own instance? Do you need to request federation with instances or is yes the default?

Was thinking of hosting my own instance just to tinker around with

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Federation is open by default but I never post anything to my home instance because no one is there. If I started posting on my own instance other people could theoretically subscribe to my communities the same way I subscribe to communities on other instances but since there are only two users on my instance it's pretty unlikely people would find it without me crossposting somewhere.

Benefits of me running my own instance are that I control my own user account and I'm not at the whims of another admin. I subscribe to content on lots of other instances and it all federates into mine which means I've been able to browse content when some of the big instances go down. I've got my own entrypoint to lemmy which feels a bit more neutral than choosing another instance to be 'home' for my user.

Downsides are that I have to pay for and maintain it myself which can sometimes be a serious pain. Because my instance only has two users my 'all' feed is basically a copy of my 'subscribed' feed plus a couple posts from communities that my wife subscribes to that I don't. That can make it hard to find new content without using something like lemmyverse.net.

If you're thinking about hosting your own instance I encourage you to give it a shot. I'd highly recommend the lemmy-ansible project on github which is both a guide and playbook for deploying the various lemmy docker containers using ansible. I'm a sysadmin by trade so running services like this is something I'm pretty familiar with but I've still found myself frustrated by Lemmy more than once. It's still a young project and can be frustratingly brittle and difficult to troubleshoot. That being said it's been a great learning experience and makes me feel like I'm doing my part to contribute to a better and more decentralized web.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not pure. Lemmings use the instances, but they are mere trespassers. Only I, Vor, know the true power of the Fediverse. I was cut in half, destroyed, but through the dormi.zone, the shitposts called to me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I think that's the first fedi instance I've ever seen that's more or less dedicated to a single video game. Very cool.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What's wrong with world? (serious question) I know that ml has tankies and such but I've never heard of issues with world.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's got a strong neoliberal bias. In my experience, the users on .world are fairly diverse in opinions and philosophy, but the mods tend to be pro-status quo centrists -- with exceptions, of course.

I recall a mod on their politics community who posted a mod-flaired comment informing us that "the United States is not a racist nation."

Some of their policies seem questionable as well, such as blocking piracy communities or disallowing archived versions of paywalled articles. It feels like the sort of thing reddit would have done to appease advertisers.

I'll admit I'm biased because I haven't had the greatest experience with some specific .world mods, one in particular who is fond of calling people "morons" for criticizing Biden. To be fair, I've seen another more rational mod remove that particular mod's comments, but it seems to keep happening anyway.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

disallowing archived versions of paywalled articles

Really? I can't stand paywalled articles especially on sites where sharing the article (here, on Lemmy) is the main point of it all.

I always link to an archive.ph or archive.org version because not only does it help bypass all that crap but it also preserves it for future generations.

This platform is for all of us, not just those who can afford WaPo or The New York Times subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

This is my philosophy as well.

[–] Levsgetso 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let’s not forget the people who were just straight up banned when they expressed their disapproval of banning the pirate communities.

You’re definitely right, a lot of the time this place feels like Reddit lite

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I didn't mention this because I was unaware it happened, but I'm not in the least bit surprised

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My comment quoting the Mueller report got deleted from .world because I was spreading “mis information”.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

And yet when they got hit by CSAM, it was up for hours. Now they're trying to blame image hosting sites when it's their own bad moderation that's to blame. Really awful mods and admins on that instance, from what I've seen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I recall a mod on their politics community who posted a mod-flaired comment informing us that "the United States is not a racist nation."

To be fair, there is no option to comment not flaired as a mod once you become one. Which honestly seems like an oversight. I'm quite active so I've volunteered to mod some big communities that have asked since I'm more likely to see a report but I dislike that now it's as though I can't properly participate as just a normal user.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for explaining.

Even so, that was quite the hot take even for someone to make as a regular user.

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[–] Levsgetso 24 points 9 months ago

Frankly, it’s just way too big, which can make performance bad, makes it a target for attacks and due to the huge user base it’s harder to upgrade. That’s why .world is still on 0.18.5 while most of lemmy is at 0.19.3.

Also, from what I’ve seen the admins can get a bit powertrippy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

It's essentially Reddit 2.0, with all the baggage that implies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveComment

As of writing this comment, one of the most recent reasons a mod has removed a comment was: reason: Comm rule 3: Claims that Ukraine does not have a Nazi problem

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

It was removed by a mod from feddit.de though. Not like that is LW’s problem unless you want admins to personally intervene with the moderation of every community on their site

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

All i'm sayin is lemmy world doesn't need any more users it's aldready too big

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

lemmy.world requires an email and defederated from hexbear

lemmy.ml doesn't require an email but gets you banned for "genocide apologia" when arguing to vote for biden on hexbear or arguing that liberalism and fascism are two different things.

I came to lemmy thinking tankies are a myth so I had to learn the hard way :D

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

sh.itjust.works my beloved 🙌🏾

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, shit very frequently doesn't work here

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

They're both awful, but .ml is definitely a lot worse.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

~~I posted the Tiananmen square copypasta to a Lemmy.world community and got banned from the instance :^)~~

~~Good riddance tbh.~~

Edit: looks like I was only banned from [email protected] and my client then decided to not let me post anywhere else on that instance.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

🦈🦈🦈🦈

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I just wanted to be on the instance that gets updates the fastest :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They should add the ability to move instances imo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Iirc being unable to do that is a problem involving ActivityPub itself, so it's not Lemmy's fault.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world's bot problem is 1000x worse. No contest if this is the choice.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but .ml is completely infested with right wing trolls pretending to be leftists which is super obnoxious

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why does it matter if it's all federated anyway

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It does and it doesn't in some key ways. Luckily we all have the option to register somewhere that aligns with our individual personal values (or selfhosting). However communities tend to grow on the large instances since the high user base gains automatic exposure via local and all' feeds. Meaning while we can choose who to trust our account with if the biggest communities are hosted elsewhere you're at the mercy of large instance admins either way.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What are some alternatives people suggest?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances

This page lists all instances but also recommends some random ones with medium userbase and high uptimes. The idea of Lemmy is that users are spread out. Lemmy.world is massively inflated with users.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The problem with the smaller instances is that there's less support and it's more likely to shut down.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I like sh.itjust.works because it has the best name. Also the admins seem cool.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I'm quite fond of this one. Admin is easily reachable and reasonable IME.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

world is the lesser of two evils, but I still recommend going for a different instance

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